Realm Reborn Conserns

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Originally Posted by DemonFury

here is the most constructive thing i can say to this thread if its that much of a disappointment to you then go play something else there are far to many people complaining about this game already do not need another one in the mix.

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Indeed. If you are not able to speak in a manner that SE can understand, speak instead with your wallet and don't pay for the game.

EDIT: Really, mods? The thread where we are courteously discussing apparent changes to animations and graphics upcoming in ARR gets locked without explanation, but this thread is left alone?

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Originally Posted by Abriael

You lost me here. When your first line completely lacks any sense, there's no hope that the rest will be any better.



Yeah, someone needs to be interesting here, because what you wrote isn't.

Not only it isn't interesting, but it doesn't contain a shred of realism and evidences an extremely lacking knowledge of the MMORPG market.

Oh, and by the way, a piece of info for your perusal: the word you're looking for is "conCerns".

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What exactly do you know about the MMO market ? Pop Quiz what is the first MMO that was ever released ?
Oh and try to answer without googling or wiking for the information since you have this vass knowledge of MMORPG's Market

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Originally Posted by DemonFury

What exactly do you know about the MMO market ? Pop Quiz what is the first MMO that was ever released ?
Oh and try to answer without googling or wiking for the information since you have this vass knowledge of MMORPG's Market

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Oh! Oh! I know the answer! /wave /wave /wave

Zork

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Indeed. If you are not able to speak in a manner that SE can understand, speak instead with your wallet and don't pay for the game.

EDIT: Really, mods? The thread where we are courteously discussing apparent changes to animations and graphics upcoming in ARR gets locked without explanation, but this thread is left alone?

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cause they won't ever change the graphics, it's in stone most likely. even if game fails they want the ps3 to do well as well. at worse this game for them will go f2p and they expect the ps3 to work well for the kiddies on it. they can change the direction of a mmo in things in game but spending more money on creating a better looking graphic is probably not gonna happen. the engine they put it on itself was a huge issue and maybe even why it had such good graphics to begin with. (don't quote me on that last statement cause i'm not a tec nerd on graphics, just sounds logical to me) either way they need worry more about the content then what the game looks like. i thought it looks above and beyond what ffxiv 1.0 looked like. it's like a different game just in looks. but it's not what will keep players or have them running. they didn't leave cause the copy paste, they made fun of it for sure but if the content was top notch still, they would of dealt with it.

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Originally Posted by DemonFury

What exactly do you know about the MMO market ?

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Enough to be aware of the fact that knowing about how a market operates is different from knowing about its history.

Oh, and different people will answer differently to your absolutely unrelated question depending on how they interpret "MMO".

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Originally Posted by strallaalaa

cause they won't ever change the graphics, it's in stone most likely. even if game fails they want the ps3 to do well as well. at worse this game for them will go f2p and they expect the ps3 to work well for the kiddies on it. they can change the direction of a mmo in things in game but spending more money on creating a better looking graphic is probably not gonna happen. the engine they put it on itself was a huge issue and maybe even why it had such good graphics to begin with. (don't quote me on that last statement cause i'm not a tec nerd on graphics, just sounds logical to me) either way they need worry more about the content then what the game looks like. i thought it looks above and beyond what ffxiv 1.0 looked like. it's like a different game just in looks. but it's not what will keep players or have them running. they didn't leave cause the copy paste, they made fun of it for sure but if the content was top notch still, they would of dealt with it.

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I'm of the mind that graphics and animations count as content as much as dungeons, gear, and quests. We use the word "immersion" a lot on these boards, and running through all those activities with a character that moves awkwardly and looks cheap is not going to feel as satisfying.

And this is Final Fantasy, a franchise with a long established history of being on the bleeding edge when it comes to graphics.

It goes back to what I said in another thread about FFXIV being judged more harshly by critics and fans alike for using copy-pasted terrain, even though that's been a standard practice in video games for as long as people have been making them. For 25 years, Final Fantasy has been setting new standards, and when a Final Fantasy game is released that is not technologically in the vanguard, you're gonna hear about it.

that is where i'ma always disagree, i don't believe in immersion to much. yes if a final fantasy game these days comes out without summoner cut scenes i get bummed out. but reality is i love to see them a few times and them it's ok, time to shut them off. it's not what will keep me there one bit. when i played the first one as a little kid probably like 7years old on the old school systems i was all about the rpg game. not what it looked like, as they came out time by time ...the graphics grew and got better and yeah it's like nice, nice ...nice with each one. but i'm now at the point where nice isn't what i'm thinking it's ...where's the gameplay from part 1. wheres the content. for me i'm capped on graphics.

yes, when i entered boyda tree for first time i was like awesome and seeing all those little areas with glowy waters and waterfalls, and cool plants and graphics. but i already see that in even the new videos. it's like ahh it looks great, i didn't see the clunkyness. i only saw the lack of difference in mobs and stuff like that, but for me it's to early to tell if i'll like it till it launches cause it's the content i want to put my hands on. to each his own though, i do agree final fantasy is and should be consider a higher standard. so it all depends on personal preferences.

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Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood

So you are declaring you are in Alpha? (mistake number one) You are publicly disparaging a game with incomplete systems. (mistake number two) Did you not read the NDA before you agreed to test? This should have been a conversation kept to the alpha forums.

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Oh yeah, tell this guy to shut up because that's the problem and not that a longtime fan has a few concerns. Can I get a membership card from you guys?

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Originally Posted by Neptune

Oh yeah, tell this guy to shut up because that's the problem and not that a longtime fan has a few concerns.

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Conserns.

/10char

meh.....

your all just flamers, trolls and fanboys and most of you dont even have as much levels and time invested in the game as i do.
you all keep acting like i dislike the game and think gw2 is amazing or some ball shit but that is not even what i was saying.
twist my words as you will but the fact is im more of a fan and supporter then you will ever be because i was trying to give some advice and constructive criticism, if you want the game to be the same old thing fine i don't care, but that is not everyone opinion and by supporting every little thing that the SE team decides for FFXIV it will be your fault if it turns out to be under appreciated.

oh and for the random people who think im this gifthose or what ever it was feel free to run a background check on me because i played from alpha and beta as Virgal williams and my Original server was Ghysl that then got changed into masamune you can see that me and my brother made a few linkshells from the start of the game so what ever lol.....
Insult me all you want you only prove yourself to be immature and arrogant.