Can Meteor's next job not be melee?

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Originally Posted by NightHour

It's confirmed to be a Physical Ranged and a Tank.

We don't need another melee until at least 10.0 in my opinion.

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probably be a striking DPS and Healer in 9.0

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Originally Posted by Duskane

probably be a striking DPS and Healer in 9.0

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And 10.0 would be double DPS again. So it could be Stormblood/Dawntrail in being 1 caster and 1 melee, alternatively they could shake that up and give double melee in the form of 1 maiming and 1 scouting.

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Originally Posted by Valence

As a full European with no American side myself, reading this just made my day.

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As a person who is Swiss and Australian (both passports) I can confirm my evil European side usually just tells me to buy more laeckerlies

really longwinded discussion to say "Reaper is my main please don't take this away from me"

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Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe

He already did, at one of the HW ones IIRC

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ah okay, I did very briefly try to look up a list but couldn't find one so that's cool.

On topic, I do kind have trouble seeing Meteor a Disciple of Magic at this point but I would like to see him use a phys ranged job again

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Originally Posted by Azurarok

really longwinded discussion to say "Reaper is my main please don't take this away from me"



ah okay, I did very briefly try to look up a list but couldn't find one so that's cool.

On topic, I do kind have trouble seeing Meteor a Disciple of Magic at this point but I would like to see him use a phys ranged job again

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It's funny because no one is asking to change meteor from a Reaper to something else. I don't think Reaper was a thematically strong choice, but that's already been decided. Who knows how many more expansions there will be, but if FFXIV does continue on for many more, I would just get very tired if all we see is 9.0 Striking DPS, Ninja, 8.0 Tank, Gunbreaker, etc.

I'm actually surprised he's not been a Black Mage, yet. It's probably the most iconic job in the Final Fantasy franchise, and I struggle to see him dropping a fireball the size of a house as less hype than the melee stuff he gets up to.

That said, knowing a good bit of Norse myth thanks to a closeness to Heathenry, Reaper isn't a bad choice. There is a lot of really interesting thematic potential there, and I also just LIKE Reaper.

The doubters will be looking stupid after Berlin or Tokyo, it's whatever man.

How do we know your “creepy European side” isn’t making you say that

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

How do we know your “creepy European side” isn’t making you say that

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Do you only care about snarking, trolling and rage baiting or are you going to tell me why Dancer and White Mage fit the Evercold theme like a completely delusional person? You haven't made one decent point in this entire discussion yet, 7000 logged posts and this is the best you have to say lmao. At least ty_taurus is trying and I can respect that even if we agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted by Coolyy

I've already explained this multiple times in this thread but I'll do it again I guess since you haven't read them:

First I will have to ask you to look at this for convenience sake: https://imgur.com/a/DCH7aFe

Obviously what I am about to say is all speculation and they will not copy Norse Mythology 1:1, but it's clearly themed around Norse Mythology.

In The Fourth the Sky Islands are supposed to be the Norse Realms. The land we see in the trailer with the Snowstorm is probably the equivalent of Midgard which they had to abandon due to uninhabitable weather, fleeing to the Sky Islands. If all the Nine Realms are explorable it makes sense that we will eventually end up exploring the equivalent of the underworld Helheim, which is the land of the dead that is under the frozen lands that is Midgard. This is probably the early favorite for being the Final Zone in Evercold.

A central theme of Norse Mythology is obviously, Death. You see this in God of War where there are a bunch of dead spirits roaming the various Realms and you typically need to fight or help them. Obviously in FFXIV the Reaper is the Job that is most synonymous with Death besides probably Dark Knight. Obviously Reapers in a general context are supposed to be the arbiter of Death as when you see one you are die. In XIV this isn't 1:1 but the Job quest and Reaper lore does a pretty good job establishing this identity. The villain in the Job questline is pretty insane if you remember him. It's pretty poetic that the finale of the Reaper questline is in Coerthas Western Highlands which is a winter zone with a lot of Death surrounding it. Go replay the Reaper questline before Evercold if you haven't, very good stuff.

Another theme with Norse Mythology is Possession, I shouldn't need to explain this if you have played God of War. Reaper is thematically involved with Possession as letting a Voidsent possess you is the main gameplay of the Job and this is magnified further when Enshrouding. I'm pretty sure at one point Zenos does end up possessing us during In From The Cold and we almost die. Yes I think a Dancer and White Mage would fit this theming so much, wow everyone.

Evercold will probably be a more creepy expansion if they are basing it on Norse Mythology and Reaper fits this horror identity better than most Jobs.

A notable theme with Reaper is that it's this lone wolf of the XIV Jobs. We clearly see this with Zenos in Endwalker as he struggled with his own isolation as he truly believed he had no equal and was superior to everyone besides the WoL. Therefore he ends up hunting the WoL at all costs to fulfill his own selfish desires even if that meant bringing his home, Etheirys, to ruin by working with Fandaniel to render The Final Days upon the Star. Throughout Endwalker he surpasses his humanoid limits and does multiple events that were originally considered impossible like possessing our body to torture us, awakening Zodiark with the intention of being his vessel to defeat us, and following us to the edge of the universe to have his final battle. By all means Zenos surpassed all expectations and was supposed to be XIV's interpretation of a Grim Reaper as an entity who is this personification of Death but in a more PG Final Fantasy manner. They will probably dig much deeper with the Zenos and WoL parallels in Evercold as what I am talking about was directly referenced in 7.5 by Halmarut. I'm assuming a main theme of Evercold is that the WoL will struggle interally with their evil side and more selfish desires which is very fitting of a Reaper. After Dawntrail I believe the WoL wants to enjoy themselves again by any means and is tired of saving the world for the tenth time, which isn't necessarily bad and we'll see how it plays out in Evercold.

Obviously this isn't all that Norse Mythology has, there is a lot of awesome parts which we will experience in the Sky Islands. Expansion is themed a lot on FFXIII which is unsurprisingly a Norse inspired game. Especially since they are covering Fimbulwinter and potentially Ragnarok which are the awful parts of Norse Mythology we shouldn't be surprised if this Expansion is more on the creepy and high stakes side.

If you still can't comprehend everything that's totally fine as they will reveal much more at Berlin and Tokyo obviously. NA Fanfest wasn't heavy on the story at all. But again they picked Reaper as the canonical Job for a multitude of reasons. They weren't throwing darts and it happened to land on Reaper. 7.5 MSQ makes this clear and the Evercold trailer make this clear.

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Literally go back and look how idiotic your response was here, I don't think you even read the post. They literally showed an Asgard equivalent as a in-game rendered city and Evercold has this clear Norse Theme, but yes the Nine Realms has no influence at all on the Evercold Sky Islands I guess despite them showing Muspelheim.

You’ve done absolutely zero in my eyes to justify why RPR matches evercold’s themes because

1) you don’t even know evercold’s themes you are extrapolating incredibly vague Norse mythology themes that apply to just about any religious mythos and hoping you are correct

2) even if the themes do closely match Norse mythology like a GOW style then your relationship of RPR to themes is still incredibly tenuous to the point of pointlessness; “Norse mythology has a lot of death”, that’s not a theme, that’s religious mythology in a nutshell. And then you tried to connect RPR’s visual design to the western representation of the grim reaper; which has zero connection to Norse mythology anyway. So you have taken a non existent connection then made an unrealistic leap of logic with it. Can you disprove my linking of your nebulous “themes” to Christianity or Greek mythology

And if you don’t want people snarking don’t make weird and frankly insulting comments about people from Europe