post-Dawntrail even story dungeons are harder and more punishing to heal than ever

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Originally Posted by Granis

by the time i see what arm he is raising and i start moving the fast-telegraphing poison aoe in the middle has already appeared and is gonna clip me because it snapshots too quickly... i mean, look at this! how are you expected to handle this if you have cast bars?

https://youtu.be/3xRhxC5rlPI

I've been stuck here for days! been trying to do it with trusts because i can't stand being yelled at and vote abandoned anymore

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I hate to sound elitist or anything, but after watching this this is in the most literal sense a skill issue. The first time the boss raises its arm here, you run to the wrong side even after the arm's up. It's not like the boss raises his arms at random times you have to be on the lookout for, once the orbs come down he starts the combo, and he has a castbar besides. There's also no reason to run through the orbs either (which yeah, that's why you got the poison dot after watching this), just stick with the group.

You know what overcapping is and you made a P10S reference, but you can't watch the boss' arms?
Beating your head against a wall for days, but can only ever come up with excuses for why you won't even try any of the advice you're being given by people who know how to beat this fight and are earnestly trying to help you?

mhm

Some players can't figure things out on their own and get frustrated when they do content early and don't have a guide.l I guess. But like, litterslly nobody should cater to those players. Just watch a guide on YouTube ahead of time.

Broski cleared p9s this is a troll post move on thanks

I'm not trolling and i really don't like that people are insinuating that. God forbid someone is struggling, just because you all can't imagine struggling like this doesn't mean other people don't. i can't afford one of those expensive mmo mice, so it's harder for me to just keybind evrrything like the pros do aside for 1-6 on the first hotbar. So, let me clarify a few points.

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Broski cleared p9s this is a troll post move on thanks

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some Context I was only able to do savage in endwalker with:

-Echo

-I had a patient group with helpful people that was basically a group that teaches people how to raid, essentially, giving explanations and calouts, and even then the clears took several weeks for us.

Having communication and helpful, patient people helping out in VC is different from the wild west that is dutyfinder or partyfinder. It's a lot easier to respond to a verbal callout in vc that to look up from all the other stuff i'm trying to pay attenion and do to see a telegraph.

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You know what overcapping is and you made a P10S reference, but you can't watch the boss' arms?
Beating your head against a wall for days, but can only ever come up with excuses for why you won't even try any of the advice you're being given by people who know how to beat this fight and are earnestly trying to help you?

mhm

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well yeah, back in endwalker i had to try to learn about uptime and using charges of abilities in a desperate attempt to get my performance to improve because i struggled with finding groups for the harder stuff, a lot of people are saying "why do you care about uptime, just focus on the emchanics" is at odd because of how much people DID care about performance when i was trying to find a static in endwalker.

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Can you tell me how you finished the Seat of Sacrifice Trial? The last boss in Mailkah's Well?The Magus Sister bosses? Omega Normal Raids? Or any other MSQ/Casual content that definitionally requires you to stand inside the bosses hitbox or near them with donut-shaped AOEs or magnetism mechanics?

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Some of these fights you mentioned, those donuts and mechanics that make you close in on the boss are a lot more obvious you're supposed to run into the "hole" of the donut, but this fight gives you the option of where you decided to dodge left and right from. Why is it better to movr into the boss than it is to stay and range and use your ranged abilities? If those poison puddles weren't there i could actually stay max phlegma range....

I tried to answer as many concerns as i could in one post, but I wanted to add something:


I had not been able to defend myself here because i had hit my daily post limit, some of you may have taken that as further proof i'm not actually struggling but trolling, but a lot of people saw that unlisted video and had been bullying me over youtube comments the entire day and i spent the entire day trying to defend myself from said bullying of said video footage of me trying it...

I just... I want to be able to improve but it's just so hard, at least in endwalker i could manage those dungeons long enough to get to the endgame where people could yell at me over lack of uptime or whatever metrics, and that's why i'm stressing so much about uptoime-releted stuff like the overcapping and stuff, because i don't want to end up in the same bad place when and if i do get through the msq.....

maybe you're all right, maybe i just will never be good enough. maybe i should just give up like so many people have said... but it sucks... i want to be able to socially be a part of this game... i don't want to have to unsub and look for another game as a social outlet because i can't pass the extremely high standards the game wants out of it's players....

There was a healer strike, now healing is too hard?
Which one is it, make up your mind guys.

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Originally Posted by Granis

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Uptime only really matters in savage or EX.
I believe I was giving really genuine advice but you didn't really want to listen or reply to it, some of the people were really trying to help but you replied making excuses without actually trying.

In normal dungeons the uptime doesn't matter, learn the mechanics first, then try to get your damage up, that's whAt I said very early on in the post.
It doesn't matter what mouse you have, I told you I only use 2 of my side keys on my mouse to use my skills, which you already have. No one's forcing you to buy a new mouse

And it seems like you have friends who can help you out in VC, if you're struggling in lvl 99 dungeon, why didn't you ask them for help? I'm pretty sure they're willing to teach you how to get through it easier with VC

Alright, I'll be nice and take it that you're not trolling. Get the mechanics down, then worry about DPS/overcap/movement efficiency. You can't do anything dead, so just focus on staying alive and overheal if you need to.

I repeat, do NOT worry about efficiency in dungeons, most of the players don't care if you aren't dps-ing much in a dungeon. Better players can and will cover your healer DPS.

Also I just noticed but almost everyone commenting is in EU/US, is this like, a thing over there? The JP side doesn't seem to have this issue and everyone just encourages you even if you die/wipe?