We need expansion/duty bans and easier/harder modes of duties.

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Oh, this again. So why were people whining about sitting in Ivalice queues for hours? I guess the roulettes were busy sending everyone to Crystal Tower. Also, literally™

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Yes, they are LITERALLY, in its exact definition, made to fill in spots in need in various duties. That is their purpose.

Then they should nerf the roulette rewards for every dugeon/raid you opt out of. It's only fair since you won't be doing the roulette as intended.

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Originally Posted by SekiaTa1ga

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You are gatekeeping, because you are assuming everyone who are expressing requests for a very easy mode like they already have in the game in other areas such as solo duties somehow can magically better because they can gain the ability to, the time to, or both, which is the fullest definition of ablism, one of the most problematic components in gaming.

There is nothing wrong with a divided community, because that just mean you cater to a wider audience. The problem is that FFXIV saw a massive spike in player fanbase via shadowbringer and endwalker, which brought in a different demographic, and then decided to alienate that demographic with DT instead of having accessibility options for all player types.

And great, you never experienced a wipe at all, while another person place a post stated she was literally stuck on a single Dungeon for an hour. I personally can attest to being stuck on a Shinryu Trial for literally 45 minutes, and know I never want to see that trial again. So yes, your experience is very ancedeotal.

To be honest, I don't even need to go even further in that because if you can't understand the necessities of accessibility in gaming, than there's no further point in this discussion.

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Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers

You're right that the "elitists" have savage and ultimate and you know what they do? They play savage and ultimate, they get geared, and then sod off for a while until the next savage/ultimate comes along. That leaves the rest of us to do what we want, the apparent majority of us are happy with the current difficulty and/or want more. I want to see more variety of mechanics personally rather than just dodging things, maybe even doing things while dodging things - a shocking idea, I know.

I also agree with others here that if people really find EW content challenging

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Oh and shocking idea, you all can have all that. That isn't the point of this thread. You are taking the complaints about people upset about the current difficulty and what the normal difficulty changed and applying that in this thread. If you all want to debate about whether the normal difficulty we currently have should stay the same, there's 4 other threads for that. This thread is meant to add an option similar to what savage, extreme, and ultimate people can do, but for the opposite end.

I was half awake when I typed that up, hence I apparently posted it incomplete like an idiot, I think I will leave my contribution at that though.

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Originally Posted by Kira619

The gatekeeping to try and push people who enjoy easier content out of the game is the fullest definition of trolling.

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If youre level 100 and STIL bring meteors into stacks, or stack double stacks, or have NO situational awareness, then its the wrong game.

You cant even call me elitist as im not doing any savage and play like, slightly above average at best. If the bare minimum is too hard or having to actually practice an duty is asked too much, then please, go and play some Mario or any singleplayer game.


What do you want an EVEN easier mode? At level 100? Literally press 2 buttons every 60 sec and you win?

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Originally Posted by SekiaTa1ga

There's nothing wrong with being bad at a game. There's an issue when people don't admit they're bad, somehow can't improve (which is ridiculous), and then want options to increasingly lower the floor until they're happy. Nobody is gatekeeping, you're gatekeeping yourself by not improving as a player.

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This and what else youve said... there needs to be a bar, there are min ilvls AND skills needed. Im the last one to say "youre bad please leave", i always enjoy the extra challenge as long as ppl REALLY wanna try and do their best...

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Originally Posted by Estguard

Dawntrail has shown a lot to me of the coming days that its been out, being sorry to say. Some of the absolute worst duties in the game. The whole expansion from MSQ to combat being completely awful.

Its about time we obtain the rights to be able to ban duties or complete expansion we no longer want to do in the game. We paid for it. We should be able to completely opt out of it.

I understand, it feels like a majority of players say "Get Good" etc and have a horrible toxic mentality. And Casuals officially have nothing in the game to do unless its 8 hours of mindless crafting and gathering.

Endwalker has shown me the ramps are already too much and too uncomfortable. And Dawntrail forced it to be even worse.

Currently outside of Worqor Zormor all the dungeons, and every single trial in this game is WAY too hard for the majority of the playerbase. And wiping for the 6th time to any of these duties are actually unfun completely.

We also need a normal mode that is only 25% harder, that would be the msq and normal roulettes making things a 1-2 wipe at the max if not 0. People should be 100% able to get the MSQ. Its MSQ. Meaning EVERY SINGLE duty. Needs a BLUE QUEST. That is the current terrible (and in my opinion and others that are getting shamed it feels like) difficulty of this expansion.

Which also comes to the "Expansion Bans". We need them now. People don't want ARR anymore? Oh well its banned from their roulettes (except mentor) etc. IT IS time for this to already be in the game. So those that arent having fun anymore with things and wish to opt out.

We also need straight 15% of each roulette being able to be banned if your not banning an expansion(s).

Games becoming too difficult as a casual of casual. I dont want midcore in my MSQ this should be in blue quests and something YOU can opt into. Not the thing that your FORCED to do to play the expansion. I want fun. And replayability. Not frustration and every waking moment im thinking about pressing the "abandon duty" button.

Though seeing how... kind of toxic this forums become along with reddit. I'm sure I'll have the opposite opinion.

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If you don't want to participate in certain kinds of content, then just don't. It's really that simple... Don't want to risk getting an ARR or HW dungeon? Don't do Leveling Roulette or High End Duty Roulette. Don't want to risk getting Dawntrail stuff? Then just play below level 91. What I'm getting out of your post is buyer's remorse because the game is just no longer for you because you refuse to improve at the game. Wish you the best of luck, but there are already fixes in place for stuff like this by being able to select exactly what you do and do not want to participate in with the Duty Finder, so don't expect any changes like this.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

If youre level 100 and STIL bring meteors into stacks, or stack double stacks, or have NO situational awareness, then its the wrong game.

You cant even call me elitist as im not doing any savage and play like, slightly above average at best. If the bare minimum is too hard or having to actually practice an duty is asked too much, then please, go and play some Mario or any singleplayer game.


What do you want an EVEN easier mode? At level 100? Literally press 2 buttons every 60 sec and you win?


This and what else youve said... there needs to be a bar, there are min ilvls AND skills needed. Im the last one to say "youre bad please leave", i always enjoy the extra challenge as long as ppl REALLY wanna try and do their best...

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If you're saying something is the wrong game because the game is too difficult for a particular user, that is an elitist, period. You can try to cover it up with languages on how you're not the top of the charts and use all the flower words you want to try and give the impression that you're not one, but it's essentially the classic internet equalivant of pretending to be one demographic to try and counteract a different demographics viewpoint when you clearly aren't part of that demographic. Let alone the rampant ablism seen in your post. In the end, you can call yourself an average, above average player all you like, but if you're attempting to gatekeep based on difficulty, you're an elitist.

My ONLY problem with getting any content in roulettes can be solved with 1 simple change: let me keep my entire current rotation and give me a DPS penalty relative to the difference between the content level and my current job level to balance it out. The only complaint I typically ever have about low level content at all is the fact that rotations are often horrendously boring at level 50. Picto exacerbates this problem, as it's arguably the most neutered rotation in the game at that level. Obviously, DPS would have to be penalized to offset the extra potency that higher level rotations offered, and frankly, I'd be OK if the DPS were slightly OVER penalized so that some of the faceroll content would at least live long enough to see some long-forgotten mechanics. (Y'all remember when Scylla had Daybreak, and you had to parkour in Glassya Labolas?)

Dawntrail knew the game was too easy and needed to be harder. But it went about this in the form of perfect aoe dodging and overly punishing overlapping puzzle aoe dodging.

FF needed something original, new and creative, not just perfection of execution. Thats why im not compelled by the gameplay of DT.