What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

So? Do you want it to stoop that low? If you don't, then this is why people are telling the devs "Yo, quality please".

It's specifically so it doesn't go any lower. It's specifically so that the game doesn't end in a flaccid, flabby shadow of what it was and could have been.

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Its called a joke, but no. You want to avoid the pitfall. At this point, I'd question if this idea of "not having the PTR" makes better QA for development, when something this catastrophic (in terms of design) happened.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Some of us have been warning you guys that the quality of the game has been deteriorating, people just keep excusing it.

And at the beginning, I could get behind some of it.
Blue Mage being ridiculously polarizing at the time? "Nah, people just have shoddy tastes and don't know how hard it is to implement something like that"
Eureka sucking hard in Anemos and being Black Hole levels of suck in Pagos? "But I like FF11's slow paced system, you guys just don't know what's good"
PvP being a constant miss? "Nah, the game just isn't good for PvP anyway"
Umbrellas and Mahjong when we have "Limited Races"? "But it's good for RPers!! We need more of this!"
Streamlining of classes? "The classes were too clunky before and had ridiculous button bloat. Nevermind Scathe exists to this day with only one real purpose. Or SMN Physick"
Hrothgar and Viera hair and headgear? "You guys knew what you were getting into"
Servers crapping out despite the obvious rise in player numbers with WoW mass exodus and the free trial giving them tremendous success? "Who could have foreseen this!?"

Look, I'm aware that this is a very common, very normal bug. It's a problem in arrays. It's not Y2K levels of "stupid but breaks the system", but it's still something that happens when you're not paying attention. It happens to the best of programmers, and yes, it is true that everything can get thrown into the water because one comma was misplaced in your code.

But that's why we care enough for QA. That's why we test things out before shipping, as best as we can. Every game has bugs, but not every bug breaks the system.
And this, for a lot of people, is the final drop on an already full glass. Square's been getting far too lenient on quality and it's shown. All their good will on ARR keeps being spent and spent and spent. A lot of you will likely still have patience for the dev team, but it's high time we tell them that though we like them a lot, we do have our limits.

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I couldn't have said it better. I beta tested this game back when it was pure shit. I was amazed that ARR was so much of an improvement. By SB, however, I was already noticing and speaking up about a variety of issues. Housing shortages have been a thing since always. Content has been either getting gutted or made too easy for quite some time. Remember your Grand Company squadron? How about battle leves? Dungeons are all exactly the same, 2 packs of trash and a boss, repeat. Remember when the economy was booming and being an omni-crafter was actually worth the effort? I could go on, but why.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

People have been constructive and polite. Healer mains have pleaded with the devs for years. 6+. And his latest response is to go play ultimate if you want healers to feel engaging. Yet someone in here has the audacity to say nothing will come close to WoW’s tone deafness? Please

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You don't need to tell me the goings on- I'm well aware & I've pitched my complaints for years just like others have- the point of my posts is to keep going- keep add it, be constructive & give criticism.
So, "please".
Unless you quoted the wrong person, I've mentioned nothing about WoW.

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Originally Posted by HeyMcFly

You don't need to tell me the goings on- I'm well aware & I've pitched my complaints for years just like others have- the point of my posts is to keep going- keep add it, be constructive & give criticism.
So, "please".
Unless you quoted the wrong person, I've mentioned nothing about WoW.

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Wasn’t in regards to you, someone else. I have to be blunt, me and many others are tired of being told to keep going, to keep add it. Do you know how shitty it feels, to beg for changes for your role for over 6 years, only to get nothing. Then you see the dps jobs, constantly being told they’re being listened to, and they get fixed and reworked. Then we finally get the lead dev to hear us and his only answer is go play ultimate.

6 fucking years healers have asked. Meanwhile dps get changes within a patch. So yes, please, spare me the just wait’s. Spare me the just keep being constructive. If it hadn’t gotten us anywhere in 6 years what hope do we have when they can’t even release housing systems properly?

What's goin' on in this threa-

...Meteion, don't look here bad things will happen...

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Wasn’t in regards to you, someone else. I have to be blunt, me and many others are tired of being told to keep going, to keep add it. Do you know how shitty it feels, to beg for changes for your role for over 6 years, only to get nothing. Then you see the dps jobs, constantly being told they’re being listened to, and they get fixed and reworked. Then we finally get the lead dev to hear us and his only answer is go play ultimate.

6 fucking years healers have asked. Meanwhile dps get changes within a patch. So yes, please, spare me the just wait’s. Spare me the just keep being constructive. If it hadn’t gotten us anywhere in 6 years what hope do we have when they can’t even release housing systems properly?

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You're good!
I'm right with you on that hill, don't worry

Also "official" response about the housing and winning number being 0 - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8c13200da81594

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Originally Posted by Y2K21

Its called a joke, but no. You want to avoid the pitfall. At this point, I'd question if this idea of "not having the PTR" makes better QA for development, when something this catastrophic (in terms of design) happened.

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Sorry. I did wonder whether it was a joke or not, but... still, it wasn't really aimed at you. I know I sounded aggressive with "So?" but I'm really just following off of what I said. "It's not that bad, but let's not get down there. Even if there's worse, let's try to make it better and not settle".

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Originally Posted by ZavosEsperian

What's goin' on in this threa-

...Meteion, don't look here bad things will happen...

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Too late.

(spoilers for 6.0)

This is what happen when you catter to players who don't like to play your game. The same players that freestyle their way trough the MSQ, carried by veterans, then vanish for 2 years until the next xpac, while the remaining ones are paying to sustain the game so they can fakecry on stream again to get likes and subs.
More solo BS, more Scions simping, more jobs simplification, more money into F2P experience.

I'm glad tho SE is failing at their housing system, because it touches the mass, not only healers, or SAM, or midcore/hardcore players. Let the white knights rise agains't their beloved god.

If they failed this hard with the lotery system, imagine when you datacenter travel and get your character and items permadeleted mid transition?