Tribute to Zenos

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Originally Posted by Denji

also one of his attacks is called 'tryst' which in my opinion makes him the villainous bisexual icon the star both needs and deserves.

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LOL, yes, his gap closer, which I just found the funniest thing

The devs know exactly what they're doing with this guy

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Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd

There's already a list of bad guys that have done really bad things and suddenly have a redemption arc and become one of the good guys. Gaius, Estinien(kinda sorta if you take the body stealing arc into account), and Fordola come to mind.

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I wouldn't count Estinien being possessed, since that was Nidhogg's work. That'd be like counting Thancred as a villain when he was possessed by Lahabrea. On the other hand, Estinien was the villain (or at least antagonist) of the 30-50 dragoon job quests.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I wouldn't count Estinien being possessed, since that was Nidhogg's work. That'd be like counting Thancred as a villain when he was possessed by Lahabrea. On the other hand, Estinien was the villain (or at least antagonist) of the 30-50 dragoon job quests.

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Yeah, I just recently did that questline - was pretty interesting that they had that in there, hunting down Estinien as a villain. It's a shame that it was exclusive to a job quest and not prevalent during MSQ (unless you were a dragoon).

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Originally Posted by Denji

emet-selch felt more like the lovechild of Q from star trek combined with jack sparrow and later on you find out a lot of that was simply due to zodiark's influence combined with the fact that he -tried- to hang out with the gross little squidgy mortals only for them to murder his kid.

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Emet's bewilderment when we tell him of Zodiark and the Final Days is so very heartbreaking. Enthralled by Zodiark, we don't actually get to interact with the Hades that has a will of his own until Elpis, and he's like, "WHAT? Forsake my brethren? Insult the memories of those sacrificed by recreating Amaurot in an ocean? Genocide!?" Then we find out this Hades is actually fond of us, though of course he would never admit to that.

It's like, crap! We already had a ton of reasons to love you Emet. But nope, he wasn't done yet.

Ugh

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Emet's bewilderment when we tell him of Zodiark and the Final Days is so very heartbreaking. Enthralled by Zodiark, we don't actually get to interact with the Hades that has a will of his own until Elpis, and he's like, "WHAT? Forsake my brethren? Insult the memories of those sacrificed by recreating Amaurot in an ocean? Genocide!?" Then we find out this Hades is actually fond of us, though of course he would never admit to that.

It's like, crap! We already had a ton of reasons to love you Emet. But nope, he wasn't done yet.

Ugh

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Agree. I love how they developed Emet's character. Maybe they will do something like that with Elidibus since we will get to know him and his son further through the Pandemonium storyline.

Still enjoying the discussion! Great to see how many other Zenos fans are out there, and awesome seeing all the comments on Emet-selch.

I do have plans in the making for his tribute video as well. TBH Emet is probably my favorite character in the entire story so far. I only found him amusing at first, but once I saw his recreation of Amaurot in the ocean depths... I really started to understand him. Such a hopeless romantic, cynical, honorable. Overall great character.

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Originally Posted by Garet

Agree. I love how they developed Emet's character. Maybe they will do something like that with Elidibus since we will get to know him and his son further through the Pandemonium storyline.

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Lahabrea's son. Erichthonios is Lahabrea's son, and we're also hanging out with Elidibus himself, though he's using his real name (Themis) to avoid being recognized as a member of the Convocation. Elidibus is still a kid among the ancients. :P

EDIT: Although, this could be Elidibus just before he officially joins the Convocation. he says "I am here as representative of an organization that works directly with the Convocation", though again, that could just be him trying to maintain some secrecy.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

I have a difficult time understanding your need to bash a character in a thread that someone has created as tribute to them.

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Some people just want to see the world burn.

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Originally Posted by Mirhd

Elidibus is still a kid among the ancients. :P

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That would explain why we're the same height.

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Originally Posted by Haruka_R

That would explain why we're the same height.

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Unless you're a Roe

Yeah. When not using another body Elidibus has always been portrayed as shorter (when you consider modern people) and just younger overall compared to his fellows. His small figure after we defeat him at the Seat of Sacrifice, and in Emet's second short story where he refers to Elidibus as a "youth of small stature" come to mind. I remember wondering in the post SoS cutscene if his size there was just a reflection of his innocent and childlike wish to save his people, or if he was actually a child when everything went down. Turns out it was the later. : /