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Originally Posted by Folsom

Anytime someone says "the player base thinks X," they're just trying to drum up support for the invisible army they wish they had because they certainly don't have any more access to that kind of information than you (or anyone else) does. Certainly enough of it thinks the healer skill ceiling is too low that it creates lively conversations across multiple media sites and suggests the existence of at least multiple opinions, so it's safe to assume that such trite statements as "the player base does not agree" have no value.

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Yeap, the skill to play healer is so low that the daily roulette is just full of healers.

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

I like when non healer player think they know more on how to play healer than we do.
Like, some of us have totally not played every content in this game as healer for 8/6/4 years.

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Then play a different role.

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Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in

Haha part of that is sorta true. We are the reason your que popped. Making healing more complex only makes less people play it or play it well.

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Bad healers existed before the healing role as a whole got dumbed down, and now they're more prevalent than ever before, despite healing being in its simplest incarnation. The only thing the devs accomplished was alienating veteran healers enough to make them abandon the role or the game itself, leaving a void behind that quickly filled up with players that spam their aoe gcd heals when only one person is taking damage and only read tooltips far enough to know that Cure 1 spam can proc freecure, and even then it's a toss up if they even use it.

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Originally Posted by Boizinho

Any monkey can play a ShB healer in Duty Finder content. This kind of ego might be warranted in WoW, but it's definitely not in FFXIV. Healing is the easiest role, even in Savage, and people typically refuse to play it because it's extremely boring. Someone has to press the "heal party after raid-wide" button every 30 seconds, but you're not special for taking on that role at all. You sound like a minimum wage employee at a grocery store bragging about "I'm the reason the food is on the shelf for you to put in your cart. I'M the reason why you were able to pay for it with your credit card so the anti-theft scanner doesn't beep." It's honestly a pathetic thing to have a superiority complex about. You didn't pick the role to be essential, you picked the role to be lazy. Anyone can press the heal party button after the hurt party spell. Most people strive to be better than that. You don't.

Also, despite it being mind-numbingly boring, I typically do queue as healer simply to ensure that the slot isn't filled by someone like you. There's absolutely nothing worse in this game than queuing into a group with an entitled and lazy healer with princess syndrome. Every single Duty Finder horror story is a result of attitudes like yours.

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Oh yes, because playing a DPS is 5D chess.

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Originally Posted by Dogempire

Not really, there's lots of people on this forum who are ex healers who would gladly come back to the role if they stopped making it baby mode difficulty.

There's nothing inherently satisfying with pressing 1 button and refreshing your DoT every 30 seconds when you've got jobs that literally summon primals or cause huge explosions with rotations that take some semblance of skill

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I’m going to level with you. Keeping the dot up is difficult enough as is. I know people who have a macro/add on to remind them when bio is about to fall off. It’s not as easy as you think.

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Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in

I’m going to level with you. Keeping the dot up is difficult enough as is. I know people who have a macro/add on to remind them when bio is about to fall off. It’s not as easy as you think.

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I think you went a little too far on the trolling so now it's kinda obvious

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Originally Posted by Boizinho

Any monkey can play a ShB healer in Duty Finder content. This kind of ego might be warranted in WoW, but it's definitely not in FFXIV. Healing is the easiest role, even in Savage, and people typically refuse to play it because it's extremely boring. Someone has to press the "heal party after raid-wide" button every 30 seconds, but you're not special for taking on that role at all. You sound like a minimum wage employee at a grocery store bragging about "I'm the reason the food is on the shelf for you to put in your cart. I'M the reason why you were able to pay for it with your credit card so the anti-theft scanner doesn't beep." It's honestly a pathetic thing to have a superiority complex about. You didn't pick the role to be essential, you picked the role to be lazy. Anyone can press the heal party button after the hurt party spell. Most people strive to be better than that. You don't.

Also, despite it being mind-numbingly boring, I typically do queue as healer simply to ensure that the slot isn't filled by someone like you. There's absolutely nothing worse in this game than queuing into a group with an entitled and lazy healer with princess syndrome. Every single Duty Finder horror story is a result of attitudes like yours.

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Just because I enjoy one button dps spam doesn’t make me lazy. In fact it gives me more time to “heal” when my only dps is art of war or broil.

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Originally Posted by Dogempire

I think you went a little too far on the trolling so now it's kinda obvious

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You can assume I’m trolling. I don’t care. Dots falling off is an issue and having a add on ping you or say X command when you need a reminder while you are busy managing the fight for yourself and others is very helpful.

I agree with this. But this is a design failure. Instead of forcing players to outsource to YouTube etc to get better the game itself should be teaching you.

what even is being discussed anymore? no amount of ad hominems or actual arguments are gonna change either side's mind. not everyone is arguing in good faith

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Originally Posted by Karthunk

Unfortunately the player base does not agree with your assessment of the healer skill ceiling being low.

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There's an entire forum full of threads that agree with my sentiment. Over the past 3? years too. And about two people in this thread that agree with you. And let's be honest, a lone cowboy here making statements for the "player base" is super sus. Unless you have access to data channels we don't I call BS.

And don't get me wrong. The healers are fine for people with little experience or no desire to optimize and attain a higher skill tier at the role. But anyone who's going to main the role and get better at it will hit the ceiling really fast. And in an MMO that people are going to play over a long period of time... That's pretty much anyone who's going to main the role seriously.