So, new hair coming out... Just...

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Originally Posted by Senn

It died partly because of that, but also partly because many other people pointed out how it made no sense to call the devs sexist. A lot of people called those kinds of comments out.

Anyway, I don't doubt there will be more hair options. I don't really know what the ffxiv team's work flow is like, but I suspect it's more efficient to work on hair and head gear after the character models are complete. Since the devs decided they were going to add male viera, it makes sense then that they would hold off on the hair and head gear. Perhaps it's just easier to have the male and female models done so they can work on hair/head gear in tandem.

The hair and head gear is coming. Just slowly. The graphics team worked extremely hard to live up to player requests and expectations. Working on female hrothgar and male viera is like adding another race - they may be the opposite gender, but it's pretty much the equivalent of a new race. It's a lot of dedication and hard work.

They aren't ignoring the hair and head gear. It's just a matter of work flow.

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If not actually doing what you said you'd do and not saying anything of substance on the subject for going on 2 years isn't ignoring it, what is? No, they absolutely are ignoring it.

We can speculate about the workflow and in what order it makes sense for them to do things in, but at the end of the day we don't actually know because they won't acknowledge it or talk about it.

So while it may or may not be the right way to go about it starting these threads, it's going to keep happening.

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Originally Posted by Nanchi

Can I ask what you want to personally achieve with this thread? I assume for the thread to be seen by the dev team, to be taken serious and to have the matter resolved sometimes soon? Or is it just to voice your dissatisfaction? Genuinely curious, because depending on the answer I really think adding to the megathread and keeping that one alive and going is the best method instead of having a super vague title and a very accusingly toned first post about the issue.

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The idea that the megathread will dissipate into obscurity because other threads addressing specific topics exist is absurd. One existing does not mean the other cannot. People can post in both. There is not some sort of posting currency restricting what people can reply to. All it really results in is even more exposure for the issue. If you'd rather reply to the megathread, by all means do so, but you didn't do that, did you? You instead posted here. That was your choice, just as it was my choice to make a thread for this matter.

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Originally Posted by strawberrycake

They worked on Male Viera and had to put hairs and Hats on the back burner because of it, can't have your Cake and eat it to.

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what cake? i never asked for male viera and i play female veira .
just like how many people in the comments keep complaining every time they see a veira/hrothgar related new threads because it dosen't concern them , male veira doesn't concern most of the female veira players so it's unfair if that's truly the reason why we're not getting new hairstyles ..

I understand we are all angry, but saying that SE is racist is a bit too extreme. You shouldn't be using a word that's so freaking heavy on the real world, to describe SE actions regarding this game.
Racism is not all about race and you should go to Miss Google and do a research on it.

On the other hand I agree that the more noise we do, the more likely are we getting an answer. So yes I think creating more threads about this situation would proly have a better impact. It's ridiculous...
We have been ignored for two years. We have absolutely no updates. We got Male Vieras but if that means no updates on Viera's customization please take Male Vieras back.

We had a two day Fan Fest and this topic was not addressed. Why? At this point I would rather prefer having a "We are still working on it please be patience" or a "No, vieras are not getting hairs anytime soon" than this horrible silence.
And for the people who said that we should change to a race that can use the hairs, well try to change to a race that you don't really care about...

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Originally Posted by Yandere-chan

The idea that the megathread will dissipate into obscurity because other threads addressing specific topics exist is absurd. One existing does not mean the other cannot. People can post in both. There is not some sort of posting currency restricting what people can reply to. All it really results in is even more exposure for the issue. If you'd rather reply to the megathread, by all means do so, but you didn't do that, did you? You instead posted here. That was your choice, just as it was my choice to make a thread for this matter.

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but you are spreading topic into multiple different threads so this thread will die much quicker than if you had post it in the mega thread and kept said thread alive
For every patch day "viera still doesnt have new hair" thread that mega thread could have been something huge

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Originally Posted by Yandere-chan

Because Square is greedy and racist against Viera, they won't be getting a variant. Like, seriously. Enough is enough. It's dumb that they literally exclude hair variants for an entire race in the game due to greed.

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I don't really think its greed, and its definitely not racism. Maybe they had planned on revamping the viera and hrothgar hair as the patches moved along, but they got sidetracked. By...I don't know...making male and female variants of the races, which they were not planning on doing in the first place, but decided to because of the outcry.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

If not actually doing what you said you'd do and not saying anything of substance on the subject for going on 2 years isn't ignoring it, what is? No, they absolutely are ignoring it.

We can speculate about the workflow and in what order it makes sense for them to do things in, but at the end of the day we don't actually know because they won't acknowledge it or talk about it.

So while it may or may not be the right way to go about it starting these threads, it's going to keep happening.

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Just because they haven't said anything on the subject doesn't mean they are ignoring it. There was never any confirmation male viera was going to happen (unlike hair and head gear which were confirmed), yet here we are. A lot of people accused the devs of sexism because there was only female viera and male hrothgar. Are we now going to accuse them of ignoring hair and head gear? None of this is a matter of sexism or ignoring, it's simply about work flow. I am sure the ffxiv team didn't forget about hair and head gear. Would it be better if the ffxiv team communicated a little more with the player base and let us in on some of their plans/goals? Yeah, I guess that'd be nice, but that could just as easily backfire.

And obviously I'm not going to say making a request thread is wrong lol

I'm more annoyed about how it's yet another female aimed designed and not unisex. Men are basically full on crossdressers in this game because nothing is masculine designed outside tank gear.

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Originally Posted by Senn

Just because they haven't said anything on the subject doesn't mean they are ignoring it. There was never any confirmation male viera was going to happen (unlike hair and head gear which were confirmed), yet here we are. A lot of people accused the devs of sexism because there was only female viera and male hrothgar. Are we now going to accuse them of ignoring hair and head gear? None of this is a matter of sexism or ignoring, it's simply about work flow. I am sure the ffxiv team didn't forget about hair and head gear. Would it be better if the ffxiv team communicated a little more with the player base and let us in on some of their plans/goals? Yeah, I guess that'd be nice, but that could just as easily backfire.

And obviously I'm not going to say making a request thread is wrong lol

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I don't know if it's about work flow, or if they forgot, or if it's because of male viera, or if it's because of hrothgar, or if it's because of COVID. Could be? Would be nice if they could, I don't know, say something about it? I'm not "accusing them of ignoring it", they are ignoring it by not addressing it or doing anything.

Not every speck of content has to be hidden away to be a damned surprise reveal years down the line.

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Originally Posted by Senn

Just because they haven't said anything on the subject doesn't mean they are ignoring it. There was never any confirmation male viera was going to happen (unlike hair and head gear which were confirmed), yet here we are. A lot of people accused the devs of sexism because there was only female viera and male hrothgar. Are we now going to accuse them of ignoring hair and head gear? None of this is a matter of sexism or ignoring, it's simply about work flow. I am sure the ffxiv team didn't forget about hair and head gear. Would it be better if the ffxiv team communicated a little more with the player base and let us in on some of their plans/goals? Yeah, I guess that'd be nice, but that could just as easily backfire.

And obviously I'm not going to say making a request thread is wrong lol

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Something that's endlessly baffling about the whiny side of the community is that they ignore the fact that a company invested hundreds of thousands in work force effort (it's not like people are doing this for free), time and other resources to make the race happen. But that company is also suddenly a person with feelings and biases. There is no team making decisions. Only Mr. Square Enix himself and how much he HATES seeing viera worked on. Clearly they're being ignored. Not like, there's priorities and someone given notes to work on things at a later date. They're just sexist/racist.