PL Woes

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Originally Posted by Krausus

no, coming to the forums QQing, blaming PLing (lumping any PLer in the same group), displaying the trash talk and complete arrogance of your actions all because of a random player in a pick up group of all things (a fail one at that since esuna caused you to fail) = douche

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coming to the forums to insult someone who didnt insult you in anyway = douche

You need a single level 42 skill from a job you have no intention of playing.
Your options are:

1) Wait hours at a time for a party, because nobody has low to mid level jobs anymore. And half of the community still doesn't use the party search functions.
2) Send yourself to sleep on extremely boring leves for very meager experience points. If you manage to slug through them at a reasonable pace, you can even run out.
3) You get a PL and do something productive in real life.

I'm not so much defending PL as much as I'm just saying that with this system it's not surprising to me at all that everyone gets power-leveled.

The game is also not difficult enough to teach people to play well. A ton of the people I've partied with just mash their skills. They wear level 10 gear on level 40 jobs. Stuff like that. It's not because they got PL'd, it's because the game doesn't require them to be anything other than lazy until level 50, and some people just never take the effort to improve their play.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

There will always be a selection of poor players, because there always is. The problem is that the pool of poor players in XIV is becoming higher due to this out of hand PL. Every single time I see a /shout for Ifrit/Moogle or god forbid Cutter's Cry. I shutter a little on the inside because I know that group is screwed.

Of course that doesn't mean everyone who PLs doesn't know their class though. I personally was forced to level BLM to run Cutter's Cry about 3 weeks ago, and i've gotten several compliments on how well I do at it. It just really depends on the player, but I do agree that for 2.0 I would like to see PLing disappear to a healing role only.

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But PL doesn't create bad players. Players who lack any motivation to be good at their role will always be bad players, no matter what. Good players are people who do want to be good/better at their role and work toward that goal. It has nothing to do with how the levels are achieved, it has everything to do with how much motivation that player has to not suck at the game.

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Originally Posted by Bigbosshenry

coming to the forums to insult someone who didnt insult you in anyway = douche

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he insulted everyone with his QQing dribble

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Originally Posted by Conradus

But if people don't get PL'd, then the dumb people will not be dumb people with lvl 50 characters with AF.

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No, they will be. Maybe not as quick... but they will be.

Dumb people existed before PL was even possible in XIV. It's naive to think that removing PL will cure dumb. Just another excuse.

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Originally Posted by Tigercub

They wear level 10 gear on level 40 jobs. Stuff like that.

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better than level 45+ gear on lv 10 jobs.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

he insulted everyone with his QQing dribble

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if thats the case then...80% of the forum's users are = douche?

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Originally Posted by Bigbosshenry

better than level 45+ gear on lv 10 jobs.

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Yeah ^^ or that. They still get by just fine on reindeer suits and pressing 1.

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Originally Posted by Bigbosshenry

if thats the case then...80% of the forum's users are = douche?

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probably ><

Oh no! In an online video game there will be bad players, WHAT A HORRIBLE FATE!

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At least the OP handled his situation with a bad player with some maturity over the players who've quit because they can't be bothered with bad players.