Why is RDM invisible right now? Where is the outrage?

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Originally Posted by Wayfinder3

start digging

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second. still absurd. To even think rez mage would be above smn if anything else.

you didn't think i would.

You just want rez mage to be meta in speed runs, as well as prog, which idk why it would. And to make pure damage jobs worthless ontop of all that.

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Originally Posted by Zerathor

you didn't think i would..

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Undertale front-manning determination forgot just how potent spite can be.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Undertale front-manning determination forgot just how potent spite can be.

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I'm sorry but there is nothing but spite for people who want pure damage jobs to be irrelevant. The people that have wet dreams for stormblood 2.0

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Originally Posted by Zerathor

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second. still absurd. To even think rez mage would be above smn if anything else.

you didn't think i would.

You just want rez mage to be meta in speed runs, as well as prog, which idk why it would. And to make pure damage jobs worthless ontop of all that.

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I think you're misinterpreting what she was saying.

She wants RDM to bring second highest RDPS contribution behind dancer and tied with NIN. Changing up embolden to all damage would put us allot closer to that. Its the typical model for classes that deal low personal damage.

High PDPS > Hybrid PDPS > Low PDPS.
Low RDPS < Hybrid DPS < High RDPS.

Examples are:
MCH BRD DNC
WHM SCH AST
BLM SMN RDM

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Originally Posted by Zerathor

https://i.imgur.com/gcc35e6.png
second. still absurd. To even think rez mage would be above smn if anything else.

you didn't think i would.

You just want rez mage to be meta in speed runs, as well as prog, which idk why it would. And to make pure damage jobs worthless ontop of all that.

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That post places RDM DNC and NIN with the highest potential utility to contribute to raid dps however, the counter balance to this is that they are on the lower end of the Personal dps spectrum. This means, your desired balance would be to want 1 or 2 of them, but you need personal dps to truly reap the benefits of any of them. as the gap between the best and worst in pdps would be too big for the hyper utility to compensate.
i flat explained the way rdps contributing jobs and pdps contributing jobs would synergize under these new distinctions.

let me link it for you
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...97/unknown.png

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Originally Posted by Zyneste

I think you're misinterpreting what she was saying.

She wants RDM to bring second highest RDPS contribution behind dancer and tied with NIN. Changing up embolden to all damage would put us allot closer to that. Its the typical model for classes that deal low personal damage.

High PDPS > Hybrid PDPS > Low PDPS.
Low RDPS < Hybrid DPS < High RDPS.

Examples are:
MCH BRD DNC
WHM SCH AST
BLM SMN RDM

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rdps is the only thing that matters. they want rdm to be the superior caster for both prog and speed runs, end of story.

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Originally Posted by Zyneste

I think you're misinterpreting what she was saying.

She wants RDM to bring second highest RDPS contribution behind dancer and tied with NIN. Changing up embolden to all damage would put us allot closer to that. Its the typical model for classes that deal low personal damage.

High PDPS > Hybrid PDPS > Low PDPS.
Low RDPS < Hybrid DPS < High RDPS.

Examples are:
MCH BRD DNC
WHM SCH AST
BLM SMN RDM

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Yes thats what im saying

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Originally Posted by Zerathor

rdps is the only thing that matters. they want rdm to be the superior caster for both prog and speed runs, end of story.

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Never claimed that lmao

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Originally Posted by Wayfinder3

Yes thats what im saying



Never claimed that lmao

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no idea how that isn't what you're implying. This looks a lot more like purely buff dps jobs will be superior highly to bringing a single high personal dps job

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Originally Posted by Zerathor

no idea how that isn't what you're implying.

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of course a BLM strawman can't possibly see the value of utility. you seem to think that Utility will always invalidate personal DPS unless there are insane gaps between those with utility and those without. This isn't true, there is a threshold where utility starts to scale against the jobs that have it. you're so blinded by how bad BLM had it early Stormblood(was meta in alphascape but you seem to forget) that you're advocating for the same thing to happen for the other 2 casters. Do you think it's fair, that a BLM could die or DC for 30sec straight and still outperform a masterful RDM. Do you believe it makes sense that BLM is such a good job for utility but RDM is the only job that can't actively abuse playing with one. I don't want RDM to be the best, i think the meta shouldn't be so much better than any other composition. now if you asked me if RDM should me meta for progression, i'd tell you YES because as it's currently designed, thats the ENTIRE point. unfortunately, we're not the best for progression, SMN was better than us through all tiers of 4.0 and ultimates except for Deltascape, Now BLM is doing the same thing to RDM. So tell me, what is the point in paying for broken progression utility when you're so weak, you can't even capitalize on what that means. RDM should be the best progression caster because thats the jobs SOLE contribution to final fantasy 14s dynamic.

i don't think you comprehend what strawman means. also, i saw what ultra super synergy teams do. we had a whole expansion for that. 1 and a half in fact.(it also wasn't, idk what drugs you're on). rdm needs a mild buff, but anything like what you'd want to happen are just insane. It'd be more of rdm just becoming smn during stormblood, which was the furthest thing from balance at any point in that expansion, even alphascape.