Add ilv requirement please in ShB[Dev Request]

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

When synced the Min ilvl and synced ilvl is never great enough that a competent tank will lose aggro. As long as DPS classes are properly playing as well and using aggro reducers; which for some reason they think don't exist because the buttons don't make a number fly on the screen.

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As a controller player, it's easier (for me) to ignore it. Yes I can press R1 to swap my hotbars or select a specific one, but it's not a comfortable thing for me to do. Hoping we get a reduced skill bloat so I can fit that Diversion in somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Gula

As a controller player, it's easier (for me) to ignore it. Yes I can press R1 to swap my hotbars or select a specific one, but it's not a comfortable thing for me to do. Hoping we get a reduced skill bloat so I can fit that Diversion in somewhere.

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Controler can have up to 40 buttons without switching hotbars using L+R and both wCross hotbars.

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Originally Posted by Gula

As a controller player, it's easier (for me) to ignore it. Yes I can press R1 to swap my hotbars or select a specific one, but it's not a comfortable thing for me to do. Hoping we get a reduced skill bloat so I can fit that Diversion in somewhere.

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If you can't be bothered to use Diversion (or any agro management tools) when needed, then don't be surprised if the healer can't be bothered to heal you or the tank can't be bothered to Provoke.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

^ this is the issue i want the devs to try to address i do not care how tanks will pull dungeons i do not care if a dungeon takes a little while longer i do care you coming into things with half the hp i have as a hlr because you are only a burden at that point

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"Yikes"

If anyone is joining with gear that low compared to the dungeon, I feel like they should be reported for trolling. Lol, just wow.

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Originally Posted by JBee

If you can't be bothered to use Diversion (or any agro management tools) when needed, then don't be surprised if the healer can't be bothered to heal you or the tank can't be bothered to Provoke.

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Your solution for someone who can't be bothered to use one ability...is to give them an excuse to not use any ability by letting them die and stay dead...that'll teach them.

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Originally Posted by Yshal

"Yikes"

If anyone is joining with gear that low compared to the dungeon, I feel like they should be reported for trolling. Lol, just wow.

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Sadly wasn't trolling just someone who thought they get something lower level and wasn't prepared for Sirensong they dodged and played fine as fine as you could in that low gear, thankfully so did the other dps and tank so i didn't have to worry too much and could focus on that person more, but if i were a whm they would've died to the unavoidable aoes on the bosses and it was just unnecessary stress.

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Originally Posted by Driskus

That gear level seems normal for first-timers going in there. Also, I'm pretty sure there isn't an ilvl sync for Shinryu, so a new tank will definitely have to work harder if the majority of the party is at 370+.

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In this case the new tank should go tank stance and use only emnity combo's. They have no need to do otherwise when the party is full of 370+'s and has dps in buckets. This even makes the new tanks life easier, they're more durable and can just 1, 2, 3 to victory.


Tanks have the tools to generate absolutely ridiculous amounts of emnity if they want to.

This sub-discussion of Diversion is silly. It really isn't an essential action at all. For if a DPS feels compelled to use it, it is almost always because they are playing with a subpar tanks. When tanks are playing properly, Diversion is completely unneeded.

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Originally Posted by Eli85

This sub-discussion of Diversion is silly. It really isn't an essential action at all. For if a DPS feels compelled to use it, it is almost always because they are playing with a subpar tanks. When tanks are playing properly, Diversion is completely unneeded.

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That's incorrect. Unless you're referring to a tank who sits in tank stance and spams their aggro combo and nothing else. But then that's not proper play.

DPS should always use their enmity tools. They are free, and there's no reason not to use them. The only ones who have a half-excuse are BRD/MCH... but at optimal levels, you have specific timings for Refresh that coincide with reducing your aggro after bursts; and people shouldn't be dying, so Tactician is really a freebie. If a tank or melee do die, it's a good thing all melee have Invigorate/Goad to use!

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Originally Posted by Gula

As a controller player, it's easier (for me) to ignore it. Yes I can press R1 to swap my hotbars or select a specific one, but it's not a comfortable thing for me to do. Hoping we get a reduced skill bloat so I can fit that Diversion in somewhere.

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Controller users can have 32 buttons with the extended cross feature, plus an additional 16 if you want to use the W-cross bar. As a fellow controller user, I have zero issues with finding places for my buttons with these features. Especially since I prioritize things like the role skills based on the frequency I would need them. Diversion is a high-frequency skill, so I place it in an easy-to-access place. Lesser used actions are more off to the side.

People supposed to run the dungeon to get the gear, so mostly will have a little lower gear than the dungeon...

Healer just get used to heal over geared tank too much that they think anything bellow that is undergeared