The Castrum Meridianum/Praetorium Change

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

This is my own perspective so feel free to refute it, but do people past 60 really still use the MSQ roulette for appreciable exp?

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You still have the 50-60 grind which is nothing to shake a stick at. That said, with everything at 70, I'd still run the roulette occasionally for the tomes if I'm getting maps for Agrippa or working on a relic. Now it won't be worth it.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

You still have the 50-60 grind which is nothing to shake a stick at. That said, with everything at 70, I'd still run the roulette occasionally for the tomes if I'm getting maps for Agrippa or working on a relic. Now it won't be worth it.

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50-60 I could see it being worth doing, I did it as well after all when I needed to. I wouldn't use poetics myself as a reason for doing it though because you obtain them so readily from so many other sources, I've been capped for months now even with building weapons and grabbing older gear for desynth and the like. I won't even suggest PotD spam even though it's more time efficient cause too many runs of THAT makes me sleepy lol

I actually think this is a band aid temporary fix. Most likely they are actually developing squadron content for the two dungeons, which (wishful thinking) may work differently and be more accessible to players who don't play squadrons.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

This is my own perspective so feel free to refute it, but do people past 60 really still use the MSQ roulette for appreciable exp? A level appropriate dungeon awards more exp for equal or less time spent doesn't it? Again this is just me asking, cause I find the dungeons a much better use of time. If someone has the math on it, I'll gladly accept the numbers saying one way or the other.

Also this will hurt the newbies that don't know how or care to communicate with a FC or LS for help. Or know how PF works. But with the many ways to get help or easy clears for older content nowadays, maybe this won't be so much damaging to newer players as it is to those who still use MSQ for the exp bonus?

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My WHM is 61. The MSQ roulette bonus gives me 963,915 exp, which is 19.78% of my total experience needed, for about 20 minutes of something that is easy and having the peace of mind of knowing it's only 2 possible dungeons and not something like 50/60 which has more dungeons that I might not like or remember. This and guildhests roulette are the first 2 things I do when I play because whether I just woke up or I just finished a work day, they usually don't require me to be fully awake/alert.

For praet's added 15 minutes of custscenes, if they give me 2x the experience (or more) I'll probably still do it.

Some people think they won't because the patch notes don't mention it but they do mention poetics. However that means little. They have one section where they say rewards (not just poetics, "rewards" will be increased), and then in another section much lower that is specifically about tomestones is where they mention the poetics change. To me that doesn't mean there won't be an exp change or an added Cracked Crystal to incentivize it.

EDIT: apparently it's more like 30 mins added so 3x exp!

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Originally Posted by Squintina

For praet's added 15 minutes of custscenes, if they give me 2x the experience (or more) I'll probably still do it.

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Prae's cutscenes alone are 31 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Rokke

Prae's cutscenes alone are 31 minutes if you're clicking quickly.

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Someone did a test run and it was only 15 minutes added. Maybe you're thinking about the after-dungeon cutscenes from actually doing the MS Quest.

But in case I'm wrong and it is indeed 30 minutes-ish, then I 'd want at least 3x the exp.

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Originally Posted by Squintina

Someone did a test run and it was only 15 minutes added. Maybe you're thinking about the after-dungeon cutscenes from actually doing the MS Quest.

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link

I dunno if the laha/thancred cutscene at the end plays all the time or just for sprouts 1st time through as its been almost 3 years since I saw it.

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Originally Posted by Squintina

Someone did a test run and it was only 15 minutes added. Maybe you're thinking about the after-dungeon cutscenes from actually doing the MS Quest.

But in case I'm wrong and it is indeed 30 minutes-ish, then I 'd want at least 3x the exp.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wuXdb7OaoY

Not counting those, though it does depend how quickly you skip through the text

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Originally Posted by Rokke

I dunno if the laha/thancred cutscene at the end plays all the time or just for sprouts 1st time through as its been almost 3 years since I saw it. But even without that scene, it is much longer than 15 min.

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It does, but can be safetly played for a new person because after that everyone just leaves. Even at that, my link clocks the start of that cutscene at 28mins

Would auto the auto-text thing help in any way? At this point they should link Asterope to MSQ Roulette if they want people to do it.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wuXdb7OaoY

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Then 3x exp minimum it is then! (at least for me)

Of course once I get my jobs all-70 I'll probably never do it again (until the next expansion), but that would have been the same even before this new cutscene rule.