This, right here is what everyone should be focusing on, rather than trying to force healers to perform 2 job roles. This game is by and large ridiculously easy. It holds your hand through almost every piece of content it possibly can. What this game needs is a difficulty adjustment/actual mechnics/baseline nerfs to all classes to make anything outside savage actually engaging to play. Alas, we can always dream. ;PQuote:
Originally Posted by Belhi
Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"
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06-07-2017, 04:57 PMKhaoticsuccubus
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06-07-2017, 05:00 PMErysIt's your opinion because Mr Yoshida seemingly doesn't now about healers having that 80% downtime and the term carry.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck
If the game design was for healer dps to not be required, we would also have incoming damage every gcd and a half, incoming damage that was dangerous btw. Not for 1 person to do nothing for the whole dungeon. -
06-07-2017, 05:03 PMWatachyThis guy said everything:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck
If you're only healing i should just spam flash as a tank or auto-attack as a dps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erys
Imma smash bosses with my book yay ! -
06-07-2017, 05:03 PMTorchicEX
I will play healer the way I want, I don't care if people will take me into raid content with them. I will cherish the ones that will play with me knowing how I play because they care about people like me. Instead of spending my time here with people who can't seem to understand that not everyone is the same and insult their ideals instead because they don't share them. Get over yourselves already, you aren't the main character of a story. You exist just like everyone else on equal footing as everyone else even if they aren't the same as you. Yoshi-P cares about all of us not just a select few and you all just spit in his face when he says something that doesn't agree with you. When he says that it isn't mandatory that doesn't mean that you "don't need to". So stop misconstruing his words and understand where he is coming from as the game developer instead of throwing your idea down his throat as the "true" way to do it.
With that I bid you all adieu. -
06-07-2017, 05:06 PMRasylia
I can only agree with a lot of posts here:
As long as (in normal content) the healer does his job, that's good enough.
If everyone does his job, the dungeon / raid is easily finished.
Savage is a completely other topic. Here you choose who you go with, so its your fault if the person you chose doesnt meet your requirements. -
06-07-2017, 05:07 PMTheRealMadruckI am not even going to resort to how I view this post....and if I did it come laden with vulgar statements on my opinion on your intelligence with a mixture of views on your observations of facts. You can take what I would say from that context!Quote:
Originally Posted by Erys
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06-07-2017, 05:07 PMMistakeNotDoes that really mean anything other than that DPS checks can be met without healers doing any damage?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck
For just about all content it is not mandatory (for any class/job) to play optimally - that does not mean players like when others get lazy and just do a bare minimum.
It is not mandatory for healers to do damage, just as it is not mandatory for tanks to stance-dance to maximize their damage output while still holding aggro. Nor is it mandatory for DPS classes to use all their buffs or to use an optimal rotation.
Yet all of that is desirable. We want our fellow players to play well, but the game does not make it mandatory to do so. Healers doing dps or not is just one aspect of this. -
06-07-2017, 05:07 PMLunaxia
Yoshi-P is quite right. DPSing as a healer is entirely optional.
It is also entirely optional to have such healers in my party, and so I will continue to kick any player who think doing the bare minimum of their job is acceptable.
I don't care what anyone may try to argue, healers who refuse to DPS cannot be called good healers. They're substandard at best. -
06-07-2017, 05:08 PMErysYou aren't either, and precisely because we are on equal footing when we play we should all in a party put the same amount of effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by TorchicEX
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06-07-2017, 05:09 PMNeophyteQuote:
Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck
We have the option to kick people for being "afk". If a healer is not doing anything for several episodes of 30s I can assume that his fingers are literally away from keyboard.
Before the last boss, when it finally adds up to 5-10 mins "afk" I guess it's ok to kick.
If Y'shtola was such a sissy, we would be all dead already.
Why do the Scions even need you? Did you do anything storywise with your healing to help? Or was it just your powers to destroy certain enemies?
There are no pure healers in Final Fantasy (and if, they're swapped out as soon as you don't need them anymore).