FCoB ilvl Requirement too high?

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Most bards don't go this far.

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Oh, totally agreed. But it is BIS, even if no one really goes for it. :p

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Originally Posted by Zumi

No 118 set is BiS you are discounting the damage you get from your main stat, which is a lot more then you get from secondary stats.

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You are very wrong. I have a BiS BRD in my static (i118) and nobody touches his DPS on BRD. Pope Hat is the name, Behemoth server.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

Premades should be allowed to enter with ilvl 1 if they so desire, I hate the artificial restrictions the game imposes on everyone. For Duty Finder it's reasonable enough.

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No thank you. I know I personally don't want to join someone's PF and then find several people trolling in low level gear.

I think that one reason the ilvl requirements still apply to premades (and should continue to) is so people can't sell carries+loot to i45 newbies in AF1 gear who bought their gil via RMT.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

No thank you. I know I personally don't want to join someone's PF and then find several people trolling in low level gear.

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There'll be higher odds of people in DF bloating their iLvl with wrong-job accessories and then switching once inside.

At least we can still change gear when in an instance so the same applies to trying to squeeze in lower-iLvl classes in on premades.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

No 118 set is BiS you are discounting the damage you get from your main stat, which is a lot more then you get from secondary stats.

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Crit is like the bread and butter of BRD, though. Most consider the DEX from ilvl increases as a grain of salt compared to going from 30 crit to skill speed, etc. Especially Bloodletter relies so heavily on it to proc.

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Originally Posted by SirTaint

You are very wrong. I have a BiS BRD in my static (i118) and nobody touches his DPS on BRD. Pope Hat is the name, Behemoth server.

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But he logged off in fishing gear. :(

Now I'm wondering what the i118 set is. . .

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

But he logged off in fishing gear. :(

Now I'm wondering what the i118 set is. . .

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Go back a page the link is there. Cost him 110mil if I remember correctly. (110 mil is nothing to some players though)

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Originally Posted by Kaisha

There'll be higher odds of people in DF bloating their iLvl with wrong-job accessories and then switching once inside.

At least we can still change gear when in an instance so the same applies to trying to squeeze in lower-iLvl classes in on premades.

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Yeah. Mine was a direct reply to allowing people to enter in level 1 gear. There's a point at which it becomes silly. xD

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Originally Posted by RinKaen

There isnt a sufficient amount of any classes on any server. You don't have to play a job you don't normally play just because they need someone. I can only see someone using that logic if They played in a closed minded environment.

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No, I don't 'have' to, but I do it anyway. There were 8-9 of us who wanted to get together and do the thing, as an FC, because we tend to do things for fun and enough of us were interested. For that to work, well, we had one main tank, one main scholar, and six main DPS, and that meant someone had to be able to step into secondary roles. Which is what I did. I've already done the content we're working on as my main, with a variety of PF groups, and continue to do so when the opportunity arises; but on coil nights with the FC I'm needed as something else and I do it as that something else. I was also the only one who'd cleared (and in many cases even entered) the turns we started at as well, and so I taught them. I didn't have to, theoretically; there's lots of guides out there and they could have done it for themselves. But I did anyway.

I feel sorry for you if "I can help my friends out by playing in this role so I do" is something you can't wrap your head around, or that someone might actually enjoy playing as more than one class. Because you're genuinely arguing that I shouldn't play with friends because our natural class leanings don't match up. What the hell.