Tanks are so mainstream. (Ramuh extreme done without tanks)

Welcome to Final Fantasy, where your job will be rendered obsolete in an instant because another job was made OP in an unanticipated way. I think it's a great strat, don't get me wrong, but gosh it reminds me of the CoP days when folks literally wouldn't even TRY unless you had two war/nin and at least 1 summoner.

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

Welcome to Final Fantasy, where your job will be rendered obsolete in an instant because another job was made OP in an unanticipated way. I think it's a great strat, don't get me wrong, but gosh it reminds me of the CoP days when folks literally wouldn't even TRY unless you had two war/nin and at least 1 summoner.

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That's actually every mmorpg ever.

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

Welcome to Final Fantasy, where your job will be rendered obsolete in an instant because another job was made OP in an unanticipated way. I think it's a great strat, don't get me wrong, but gosh it reminds me of the CoP days when folks literally wouldn't even TRY unless you had two war/nin and at least 1 summoner.

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This happened in WoW too - Every MMORPG actually lol. CoP days were fun since the groups who cleared it without going the path of least resistance were praised for actually taking a challenge head on lol, Ouryu and One to be Feared for example.

I hope people will take this to next level.

EOS TANKING

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

This happened in WoW too - Every MMORPG actually lol. CoP days were fun since the groups who cleared it without going the path of least resistance were praised for actually taking a challenge head on lol, Ouryu and One to be Feared for example.

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The only time where it happened in WoW was vanilla going into the end of TBC. TBC was notorious for it since that's where the term "sunwelled" comes from (mages were sat out for the last raid of the expansion in favor of warlocks and shadow priests). It was nowhere near as rampant as it was in FFXI.

With all the tank hate going around these last few month I've started thinking I should play as my drg more. Haven't touched it since 1.0 yet it still has almost i90 gear and I'm sure all you tank hating SoB's don't mind carrying a helpless ex-tank turned drg as he tries to learn his basic combos in you're leet endgame groups. /cheers!

I myself in FFXI was able to play SMN and use my pets to tank a great many NM's. SE never ever once thought it was not working as intended or felt the need to nerf or they would have done so then. Now in ffxiv using smn to tank various situations why do we need to call out nerf needed when it was allowed and clearly supported by the community at large in FFXI. There were even guides written to help show smn's how to use pets to tank. Why now with this? Do you guys really think a nerf is needed? This is clearly not exploit of any kind just a good use of the legal tools SE has given us. I cannot support nerfing at this time. If we must here than why was smn allowed to thrive so well in ffxi and must die here in a pit of nerfs?

Being able to do things like this, find viable alternate strategies, is awesome. We need more of that and less rinse & repeat of the programmed encounter.

I did this with my FC and it was a lot of fun. My Titan-Egi got to be useful! :D

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Originally Posted by WHS

I myself in FFXI was able to play SMN and use my pets to tank a great many NM's. SE never ever once thought it was not working as intended or felt the need to nerf or they would have done so then. Now in ffxiv using smn to tank various situations why do we need to call out nerf needed when it was allowed and clearly supported by the community at large in FFXI. There were even guides written to help show smn's how to use pets to tank. Why now with this? Do you guys really think a nerf is needed? This is clearly not exploit of any kind just a good use of the legal tools SE has given us. I cannot support nerfing at this time. If we must here than why was smn allowed to thrive so well in ffxi and must die here in a pit of nerfs?

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Because FFXIV is a game where the developers don't want you to think.

Noticed how there is almost zero customization in the game?