Titan Extreme mode - no melee allowed. Thx SE.

As promised, 0 death, 0 plume hit, 0 bomb hit, 313 ping from Australia and no Foe Titan kill DPS:

http://i.imgur.com/h8LQvzZ.jpg

Fugitive OP ^^, he is my Coil bard. No he did not get jailed much, yes I got jailed multiple times with Shoryu.

In any case, I really don't care what you say Hitome, your probably going to find a way to make sure I look like a baddie, but whatever ^^. Have fun + GL.


Edit: proof I'm in Australia, taken this morning at my fiancée place:

http://i.imgur.com/F3XGDGL.jpg

So you did Titan Ex, didn't have foe requiem the entire time, and had the highest DPS (something you seem to emphasize over overall damage) yet BLMs are somehow bad for this fight. Here, let's fix this for you:

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

MNKS < SMN < DRG < BARD < BLM when it comes to DPS if all are equally geared and skilled against Titan Ex. This is just a stupid group that don't count for much. Heck, fastest Titan Ex kill I ever had, pug one shotted had a MNK and DRG doing crazy dmg.

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Thanks for doing the leg work. Grats on your earring.

How can a bard even get 300 dps? even on a dummy? I think whatever parser you are using is calculating things differently than mine.

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Originally Posted by NeonC

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Finally someone have noticed. I was dragging this on purpose too see how long Hitome and others going to take to realise how worthless the screen shot he posted and I followed with the same exact thing just to see where this is going.

Logrep live recorder"Real time Attack analyze", which is what Hitome posted in this thread and I followed and posted the exact same parser using the exact same function is MAX DPS not SUSTAINED DPS.

Here let me make this even easier:

Sustained DPS: Avg DPS through out the whole fight, it goes up down and directly get affected by your actions, such as player skills and death.

Max DPS: Max DPS is the highest DPS reached at any point in the fight. So if someone pops all their cds and for a moment reached 300+ DPS, it will be their maximum DPS and it won't go down or get affected by anything since it is just meant to represent the maximum amount of DPS reached at a certain point in the fight.

Hitome, If you want to know your real Sustained DPS, use log rep analysing function after the fight or FF XIV app (Much better parser). You will see for yourself why I'm still standing by the chain I posted for Titan and only Titan.

Edit: When it come to MAX DPS, BLM will always win, ALWAYS. This is due to buffed out double flares hitting multiple targets, so for a moment it can reach up to 550+ and that will be recorded as the maximum DPS BLM did, never goes down even if he sit on his ass afterwards. Sustained DPS however, will take those double falres and add maybe 1-5 DPS points maximum to the avg.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

Hitome, If you want to know your real Sustained DPS, use log rep analysing function after the fight or FF XIV app (Much better parser). You will see for yourself why I'm still standing by the chain I posted for Titan and only Titan.

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I already do. Why do you think I am only concerned about overall damage done (hence, why I outparsed you on Ifrit) using the real-time analysis tool opposed to a meaningless figure like max DPS that you seem to harp on?

Why is your chain like this:

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

MNKS > SMN > DRG > BARD > BLM

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when the DRG only did 650 more damage than you when he is a MELEE who is supposedly superior in every way shape and form on this fight (650 damage is less than one fire 1 cast) and the BRD ran circles around both of you by doing 20k+ more damage overall?

Do I really need to explain why your chain is full of garbage yet again? According to your own parse, it should now read:

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BRD >>>> everyone

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yet you have BRD labeled as 2nd to last.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

because your "greater than" chain is false.

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Nope it is not ^^. but here's a parse that I did that disproves it for you

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I'm so glad we have resoled this issue.

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Dude, it is what you posted! You are the one who posted max dps screen shot and did not post sustained dps which is what I'm talking about the whole time :(.

My chain is based on Sustained DPS, not total damage and not max dps :(. <<< why is this part so hard to understand?

As for the bard dancing around us in Titan EM? Heck I have always seen him do that in Titan EM, nothing new. It is a fight he rules, specially with a DRG in party. In Coil, T4 & T5 are fights I absolutely without question destroy him in sustained DPS, Max DPS and Total damage done. Not just him every other DPS job including SMN.

Just note this, I have never said BLM is garbage in Titan EM, I only meant to say when it comes to sustained DPS in this fight we are not the highest if everyone is equally skilled and geared.

Edit: In any case, I take back my chain. Total damage done should have said everything you wanted to say, and I do understand it. Just wish you have communicated it better.

The dragoon is boosting the BRD's dps with disembowel (just as the BRD should, but didn't boost the BLM's dps with Foe's) -- Titan doesn't have a single mechanic to force you off of a target except for gaoling and jumping -- these two mechanics effect all dps equally except for monks who will lose GL3

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Originally Posted by Maye

The dragoon is boosting the BRD's dps with disembowel (just as the BRD should, but didn't boost the BLM's dps with Foe's) -- Titan doesn't have a single mechanic to force you off of a target except for gaoling and jumping -- these two mechanics effect all dps equally except for monks who will lose GL3

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Thank you :).

Edit: Just a note about not getting Foe, I'm forbidden from having it unless I beg for it in TS and call him "My Savior" :(.

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Thank you :).

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I mean I disagree with your chain a little bit and would put like SMN > DRG > BRD > MNK > BLM for "average dps" throughout the fight. I think it really messes with monks, but I also haven't played with a fantastic/over geared MNK while I play regularly with a fantastic dragoon and two stellar bards. All of the classes do plenty of damage and contribute greatly to the fight. There's no reason a 4 BLM dps squad couldn't clear it.

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I mean I disagree with your chain a little bit and would put like SMN > DRG > BRD > MNK > BLM for "average dps" throughout the fight. I think it really messes with monks, but I also haven't played with a fantastic/over geared MNK while I play regularly with a fantastic dragoon and two stellar bards. All of the classes do plenty of damage and contribute greatly to the fight. There's no reason a 4 BLM dps squad couldn't clear it.

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Agreed.

See Hitome, Maye did not harass, did not make assumption, polite & civil. All I got from you is a headache when it could have been resolved in one post.