Absence of end-game content : the downfall of every MMO.

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Originally Posted by Arriverderci

Don't compare those two, ever. Again, it's over a decade year old games.

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In a decade, developping games still takes more time than playing it, wether you like it or not.

Maybe I'm just getting old, but I actually like the fact that I can finish the important stuff (like coil turns 1-4 and capping myth) in a day or two, leaving the rest of the week for either casual play or other games/activities.

MMOs have been consuming my life for about 16 years now. Kind of nice to take it easier now and not be behind the curve. I still get more than my money's worth out of my sub and wouldn't think of quitting due to lack of content.

People are bored of end game because it takes a couple of days to get to level cap for someone who has a little more time on their hands than the adverage person. For people who have less time to waste on games they might be just getting to cap but most of these games appeal to people who like to go full-time in games so oh well lol.

The age of hardcore raiding end-game mmo's died with vanilla wow and it's not coming back.
Todays mmo's are about housing and vanity costumes.
Get used to it, it's here to stay.
At least you have something to tell your grandchildren about "games were a challenge back in my day!"

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Originally Posted by TrickedOutHoro

That's the price you have to pay when you get into an MMO in it's earliest stages.

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Indeed I remember these complaints from every single major MMO in the last +10 years. Even WoW was slammed as doomed to failure because of a lack of end game content..

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Originally Posted by TheMoonflow

The age of hardcore raiding end-game mmo's died with vanilla wow and it's not coming back.
Todays mmo's are about housing and vanity costumes.
Get used to it, it's here to stay.
At least you have something to tell your grandchildren about "games were a challenge back in my day!"

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Really Vanilla was hardcore raiding? Where you could bring 40 people and as long as 15-20 did something resembling what was supposed to be done you could clear the content?

I feel sad for your lack of real hardcore raiding experience.

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Originally Posted by SnickleWhiskers

Imma just drop this here http://telarapedia.gamepedia.com/Dungeon emphasizing the "Retail Launch" section.

People need to quit defending the end game yes it is bad and stop saying it isn't.
Stop making new threads about it you're not a snowflake.

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Hardcore versions of low end dungeons hardly counts. According to that page it only had one real endgame raid. FFXIV still seems better off.

This happens because of a lot of people play this game like a race. Without FATEs grind and play doing a bit of everything, this game takes 3 or 4 months at least to reach lvl cap.

Ive been playing since early access, right now Im lvl 36. I do FATEs only if one appears near to me, I run dungeons, farm items, gather, craft...

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Originally Posted by Tool_of_Society

Indeed I remember these complaints from every single major MMO in the last +10 years. Even WoW was slammed as doomed to failure because of a lack of end game content..



Really Vanilla was hardcore raiding? Where you could bring 40 people and as long as 15-20 did something resembling what was supposed to be done you could clear the content?

I feel sad for your lack of real hardcore raiding experience.

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Truth be told I didn't, it's just what I heard, I only raided a little during wrath and DS, but everyone would bang on about how vanilla was harder.
Anyway ,I'm a casual gamer.
And it seems games are being catered more and more towards my personal tastes, so no complaints here.

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Originally Posted by SnickleWhiskers

Imma just drop this here http://telarapedia.gamepedia.com/Dungeon emphasizing the "Retail Launch" section.

People need to quit defending the end game yes it is bad and stop saying it isn't.
Stop making new threads about it you're not a snowflake.

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You know that all those "retail launch" dungeons were just harder versions of the same 8 you ran while leveling up, with the addition of only one raid, right? I can't be the only one that sees that.

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Originally Posted by Tool_of_Society

Indeed I remember these complaints from every single major MMO in the last +10 years. Even WoW was slammed as doomed to failure because of a lack of end game content..

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"Really Blizzard! Three months and all you have to give us is Dire Maul and two bugged world bosses! At least fix Ragnaros so he stops breaking weapons on each attempt..."

The good ol' days!