Black Mage What Need to be Changed and Improved [Discussion & Feedback]

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Originally Posted by Allyrion

How many of those replies are people defending monks? The reply count isn't the same as how many people agree with it.
I posted in those too, but I don't agree that monks are weak.
I mean, I could easily look at "Likes" instead. This OP has 26. The monk threads has 6 and 4 respectively. That's hardly convincing.

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No need to look on "likes"- just read some messages. Most of players think, that something must be done with GS buff, because it wanish very fast. What else? Do you know about realy useless monk's skills Perfect balance ans Shoulder TAckle (for example). You want to know monk's opinion? Just play monk- you will have your own

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

Thank you for your continued feedback on the usefulness of each ability. As you can imagine, we'll continue to make class and job adjustments on a patch by patch basis as necessary. However, at this point, we can't comment just yet on whether or not we'll make adjustments to abilities like Freeze or Apocatastasis for the upcoming PvP system as its not yet implemented.

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Last I heard, PvP abilities were going to be separate from PvE abilities. This comment suggests otherwise. Anyone know if class abilities will be shared between PvP and PvE?

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

No need to look on "likes"- just read some messages. Most of players think, that something must be done with GS buff, because it wanish very fast. What else? Do you know about realy useless monk's skills Perfect balance ans Shoulder TAckle (for example). You want to know monk's opinion? Just play monk- you will have your own

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Um, Monk is what I play. Even with GL3 falling off sometimes, I'm still better dps pretty much every other dps I've come across.
Monks are the highest parsers. Perfect Balance is an excellent burst skill and any good monk rotation has it as dps cooldown or a GL builder. How is that useless?
Shoulder tackle adds good mobility to the monk. The cd could be lowered but that's a tweak more than a fix.
And those replies do not all agree that monks have problems. Monk just take a lot of work.
Now leave the BLMs to their discussion.

This is more of a question than actually something that need improvement but, since Final Fantasy II (corret me if im mistaken please) the BLMs have been able to use Ultima (there might have skipped one game or two, but im talking in overall). Will BLMs be able to have acess to Ultima skill in future content?

Would trade Freeze for a threat reducer in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by xRitzx

Last I heard, PvP abilities were going to be separate from PvE abilities. This comment suggests otherwise. Anyone know if class abilities will be shared between PvP and PvE?

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This is a common misconception. The PVP-specific abilities they referred to are CC Removal/Temp Immunity abilities. You will still use your regular rotations in PvP.

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Originally Posted by CurlyBruce

This is a common misconception. The PVP-specific abilities they referred to are CC Removal/Temp Immunity abilities. You will still use your regular rotations in PvP.

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Thanks for the answer. That makes sense with what the dev said. Sorry if it derailed the thread a bit but the dev mentioned PvP and this will affect black mage abilities as well as all other class abilities.

I'm a WHM and now I'm leveling my THM to become a BLM.
But BLM skills is dishearteneing, at best.

Freeze is great for speed runs for binding trash outside of a boss, defiantly a useful ability. People on here must not do many speed runs.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Freeze is great for speed runs for binding trash outside of a boss, defiantly a useful ability. People on here must not do many speed runs.

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Yes, an end game BLM ice spell best/only use is bind so you can skip. Very useful indeed, so tell me does "Cover" still works in Coil when BLM shouts in T4 "FLARE INCOMING"? That is what I would call a damn useful skill not your gimmick tactics to speed run.