Weekly Caps: Worse than Fatigue

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Originally Posted by Rochetm

"OMG I am burning out because of cap."

SE removes cap... a week later...

"OMG I am burning out because I ran out of stuff to do."

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Amen brother

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Originally Posted by Moirear

"Most efficient" rarely equates to the "most entertaining" way to do things. It's really a self-defeating purpose if you grind through content as quickly as possible just to be able to yell "first!" and end up without content and having deprived yourself of other stuff that would have been more fun, had only you taken the time for it.

Is there some sort of real-world one million dollar prize you win when you run out of content in this game that I haven't been told about? Seriously, what's up with the rushing?

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Some companies encourage rushing. I've seen plenty of MMOs where the company offered the first few players who hit level 25 a new mount or pet. This usually happened during open beta and hell look at the recognition the FC Order of the Blue Gatr or whatever got. They received recognition from Yoshida himself for completing Coil 1 - 4 first. For some that in itself is a prize.

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Originally Posted by Klefth

Five, thank you very much. All mostly well-geared, too. And that's only counting DoW/DoM. You do a terrible job at assumptions, man.

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I am happy for you man =). I believe I remember your name in 1.0 ( You have the Rare Goobbue) . If all this came from 1.0 ( grinding wise), then all I see from your profile is Arcanist to 50. ( Probably FATE grinding).

Either way, I congratulate you for your efforts.

Edit: My Profile ( Moonlight Star<----- Brand new Chara) is my main right now and that is what I got so far, take a look ( 4 maybe 5 hours daily).

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1705013/

Co-sign this.

Myth cap makes me want to play 1 day a week. Coil 1-2-3-4, AKx4 and I'm set.

There's little point in leveling other classes to 50 IMO when I won't be worth taking someones spot who puts all their myths into that class. The best I can do is hope for some left-over Allegan gear and DL or crafted.

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Originally Posted by Onolock

He is blinded by the games real problems with his love for it. He doesn't see the glaring problems, the game has a suprisingly small amount of content being that it was refreshed from 1.0(groundwork laid), 50 content should have been their primary concern especially when you make statements like, "The game starts at level 50"

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Yea I see this a lot on this forum. Even though I was stuck on titan and took a break from doing him all together for about 1 week. I still got past him and coil has been my only thing to do for almost 2 weeks. I only see myself even bothering with this game atm just to run with my coil static and even then I just play another game till it starts. All in all this game didn't live up to the content expectations set by the developers saying it started at 50 and having plenty of end game. As many have said this game does a great job of pulling you in for 50 levels but does next to nothing in wanting to keep you there at 50. SE needs to step up their game and they need to step it up hard since atm the games 50 content is not entirely worth the sub fee.

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Originally Posted by Onolock

You are saying why not just run Wanderer's Palace to get full DL? It's not efficient, and makes no sense.

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No, I'm not saying anything to that extent. I'm saying: do what is fun. All disagreements aside, I figured (maybe mistakenly) that this makes a lot of sense in this universe.

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Originally Posted by Onolock

Your point that some people might do other things cause it's more fun is silly,

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*record screeching to a halt*
Doing fun things in a game? How preposterous of anybody to suggest such nonsense!

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Originally Posted by Onolock

I could sit and grind dungeons to 50 and probably take more than 10 times longer to 50 over someone grinding fates. Would you run a business this way? Would you do any aspect of life this way?

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Run a business in a non-efficient fashion? No.

Play a game in a way that is more fun than the boring way to rush through it, at least until the game developers make the needed improvements to it? Yes.

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Originally Posted by Onolock

If they made any other efficient way to level, people would do so. The majority of MMO players even casuals will ALWAYS take the most efficient path(ie AK speed runs or CM runs) towards any goal. You are saying why not just run Wanderer's Palace to get full DL? It's not efficient, and makes no sense. Your point that some people might do other things cause it's more fun is silly, I could sit and grind dungeons to 50 and probably take more than 10 times longer to 50 over someone grinding fates. Would you run a business this way? Would you do any aspect of life this way?....So why would you here?

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because it's a game and i'd rather enjoy it for 10h than do boring fates for 1h then jump 9h in city!

and when you have sex do you just come asap or do you make it last the longest?

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No, I'm not saying anything to that extent. I'm saying: do what is fun.

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People do what is fast> What is fun?!

People should play a game for the fun parts not the parts that feel like a job to them >.>.

Granted they do need to fix some issues the the exp gains for some of the leveling content. Even still I'm not going to do the fastest content possible just to get 50 and have little to do when I get there. Yes I am going slow paced, and that's fine, more content for me when I actually DO hit 50.

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Originally Posted by Moirear

No, I'm not saying anything to that extent. I'm saying: do what is fun. All disagreements aside, I figured (maybe mistakenly) that this makes a lot of sense in this universe.


*record screeching to a halt*
Doing fun things in a game? How preposterous of anybody to suggest such nonsense!


Run a business in a non-efficient fashion? No.

Play a game in a way that is more fun than the boring way to rush through it, at least until the game developers make the needed improvements to it? Yes.

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Running a hundred dungeons to 50 with friends and running Fates to 50 with the same friends is the same amount as fun...so why would you take the least efficient path? Logic does not compute...

They made the game with the ability to rush, purposely making dungeon grinding worthless and no incentive to do so. You don't even get gil from the instances and I can farm monster drops MORE EFFICIENT outside of dungeons. Really, none of your points make any sense at all =/.


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I'm talking about monster drops for crafting. You can buy jewelry from the AH for cheap and get AF1 gear from your 45 quest; so dungeon running is rather pointless. Guildhests can only be done once for decent Gil. Dungeons in Beta 4 were giving 50% more xp than they currently are right now, which means they nerfed it for launch.

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Originally Posted by Sotek

My group can easily clear AK three times in the space of an hour. Several hours and we're done with Mythology for the week. Speedrunning? No, we can clear pretty much every mob (SBing yo) and still clear it in under 30 minutes, only thing that adds to that is people needing to go AFK or wiping for silly reasons. Once you have Relics and Relic+1s, AK speedrunning is the default setting, no matter what you try to do there...

Am I meant to spread those few hours out across the week or something? What exactly am I meant to be doing in the mean time? Level other Jobs? Sure, so I can't gear them? With the Mythology cap there really isn't much point in leveling multiple Jobs, even if I do it isn't like that'll take long at all. Disciples of Hand and Land? Sure, that is what I have been doing... With Levequests that is possibly worse than capping Mythology though, you can get 50 ridiculously fast, either that or it is just outright boring (Botany/Miner)... Then what do I do with that? Make Gil? For what, housing? Well, that is in 2.2 at best, since I'm not about to pay for my entire Free Companies house... Oh, and lets hope while I'm making Gil Gil Buyers don't buy my trash so SE has an excuse to ban me for a week and return my account with 10% of the Gil I did have, though luckily Legacy servers seem immune to such problems.

Honestly, this game should go F2P, because that is clearly the model they've set up here... All that weekly Mythology cap is missing is a cash shop option to reset it mid-week... At least then I might have a reason to log in after Wednesday... I wouldn't even say the lack of content is a problem, it is the ease of anything pre-Coil that is a problem... Nothing in this game feels like it takes any amount of time for me to do, the closest thing this game has to a grind is me figuring out what to do while I wait for weekly caps to piss off, and at this point that has resulted in my logging in less... 2.1 better be damned amazing...

Seriously, I'm going to be generous and say capping Mythology takes 5 hours out of my week; what should I do with the other (to give a rough estimate on my playtime) 27 hours?

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I understand your point but are you seriously asking if you should spend time with your family or have a social life outside of a video game??