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10-23-2013, 04:15 AM
NoctisUmbra

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Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero

This^ Is there a BiS yet for MNK? I think a nice balance between SS and Crit would be the best way to go? DET is nice but should be lower down the pecking order?

SS easily sits at the bottom of the pecking order imo.
10-23-2013, 06:11 AM
Riot55

I have melee helm and sphirai +1. Gryphonskin chest/legs/boots/ring (fully melded with crit and some determination and a decent amount of skill speed), Allagan Earrings of Maiming (I guess this is the DRG earring but it'll do... is the Striking one better you think?), Darklight everything else, and now deciding on what to buy with tomes next. What do you think is the best upgrade and the one that can be more considered best in slot when considering damage and keeping accuracy up, Melee Chest or Melee Pants? Not sure which one to save for next....
10-23-2013, 06:40 AM
Reyki

actually i have the head and boots af2 and 2 ring/ chest/legs/arm/belt hypogryph and DL for the other stuff and i have : Accuracy 485/
Critical Hit Rate 512/Determination 243/SS 506 ....

i m planing to buy AF2 necklace to earn more crit . with that i can tell that it's useless to get more SS , because it's not even noticiable, i ve already tried with 520 SS (with the SS DL necklace ) , in ur burst rotation , with even more SS u cannot deal more hits , u are like capped by ur GL3 and cannot make more than 3 skills (free , like ID) + 3 skills(refresh DL3)....so yeah SS is broken and not that usefull for now . with SS actually , i just feel that the building time of GL3 is more smoother but just a bit .
10-23-2013, 01:11 PM
Perthaneus-Magnum

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Originally Posted by Kodaijin

Hey guys, just wanted some input as to what you all think is going to have a better impact as a MNK, gear wise. Here is the total stats of a 5 pieces melded set of Gryphonskin I made, compared to the end result stats of AF2 and Allagan.

Gryphonskin Gear (Melded)
Skill Speed: 99
Determination: 67
Critical Hit Rate: 90
Accuracy: 71
Strength: 76
Vitality: 86

Melee Armor Set:
Skill Speed: 60
Determination: 32
Critical Hit Rate: 36
Accuracy: 83
Strength: 112
Vitality: 126

Allagan Armor Set:
Skill Speed: 45
Determination: 26
Critical Hit Rate: 119
Accuracy: 24
Strength: 112
Vitality: 126

Let me know what your thoughts and or questions and advice are ^^

Get your Skill Speed to 492-499 and then worry about Crit Rate. You can also use HQ Eft Steak to achieve this. Also, the best build is not by having the full set but by mixing and matching.

Allagan Visor
Melee Cyclas
Hero's Belt
Melee Hands or Allagan Gauntlets of Striking (only when you hit 492~499+ Skill Speed without the melee gloves)
Allagan Trousers
Temple Boots OR Allagan Boots (exact same stats)

Striking Choker
Striking Earring
Striking Bracelets
Striking Ring
Hero's Ring

Hope this helps on your quest to the top of the DPS chain....
10-23-2013, 01:12 PM
Perthaneus-Magnum

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Originally Posted by Sibe

skill speed is a broken stat atm

1- it give rly too low gdc reduction
2- you need to move out and in in the boss fight and this make skill speed useless anyway

WRONG....you have to learn how to time it perfectly. You have 12 seconds which is more than enough time.
10-23-2013, 01:13 PM
Perthaneus-Magnum

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Originally Posted by Arkista

So anyone got an ideal stats for MNK yet?

SKILL SPEED, then CRIT RATE and then DET.....in that order. Accuracy will be just fine as the gear you choose will have it already. I would post the BiS for SPEED but XIVDB is acting up right now.

this will suffice for now though.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B96YhajU7X4
10-23-2013, 01:16 PM
Risbyn

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Originally Posted by Perthaneus-Magnum

SKILL SPEED, then CRIT RATE and then DET.....in that order. Accuracy will be just fine as the gear you choose will have it already. I would post the BiS for SPEED but XIVDB is acting up right now.

this will suffice for now though.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B96YhajU7X4

Mind if I ask why you're pushing SS when it's the lowest in terms of returns per point? Crit/Det will give far more returns as far as DPS than SS would.
10-23-2013, 01:18 PM
aswedishtiger

what are the caps for stats? I dont want to create a thread about it

figured I just ask here
10-23-2013, 02:44 PM
Teeko

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Originally Posted by Risbyn

Mind if I ask why you're pushing SS when it's the lowest in terms of returns per point? Crit/Det will give far more returns as far as DPS than SS would.

I've always thought about this, but at the same time, a lot of the gear simply has more of it. So even if SS was worse than say, crit, you get almost double the amount of SS vs crit on some pieces of gear. Quantity over quality and all that. I'm by no means a theorycrafter, I just thought it was something to think about :)
10-23-2013, 04:13 PM
Powercow

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Originally Posted by Teeko

I've always thought about this, but at the same time, a lot of the gear simply has more of it. So even if SS was worse than say, crit, you get almost double the amount of SS vs crit on some pieces of gear. Quantity over quality and all that. I'm by no means a theorycrafter, I just thought it was something to think about :)

That's actually because itemization is different piece-for-piece. The actual BiS set for monks involves a whopping +32 to skillspeed only because the boots and earrings can't avoid it. The only stat that has a higher cost is Determination.

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