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03-21-2019, 02:52 AM
WhiteArchmage

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

can you tell i'm bored and itching for fan fest XD)

I'm mostly waiting to see how close this thread gets to 400 before Fan Fest.
03-21-2019, 04:24 AM
MrKimper

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Originally Posted by artyport

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Okay REAL last last one for the road.

https://wx3.sinaimg.cn/mw690/0071Y47...31p417qgw2.jpg

Good luck for everyone's predication's, I'm hoping we get both full hrothgar and viera but I'll be fine with whatever we get, ALSO PLEEEASE TWO JOBS INSTEAD OF JUST DANCER AND MORE GUN FOOTAGE.
03-21-2019, 04:57 AM
Shougun
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Originally Posted by MrKimper

Okay REAL last last one for the road.

https://wx3.sinaimg.cn/mw690/0071Y47...31p417qgw2.jpg

Good luck for everyone's predication's, I'm hoping we get both full hrothgar and viera but I'll be fine with whatever we get, ALSO PLEEEASE TWO JOBS INSTEAD OF JUST DANCER AND MORE GUN FOOTAGE.

If it wasn't for the face you could convince me that was a woman lol.

Also are we doing our prayers now?

Prayer:
- Hrothgar male and female, very much like a Ronso without a horn and may even have a horn option as one of the races. The face might be a bit more humanoid than snout-y Ronso with a sort of Pantera (BLESS) / Byakko (primal) visual.
- Viera male and female, strong lean body with some masculine and feminine (stereotypical description) facial options
- Dancer, Healer - unique combo gameplay
- Blue Mage, Advanced job (damage dealer) <- this is a wild one but the way the leaks describe blue mage as a job starting at level 50/60 and stuff just feels.. .. "how could you have got that wrong, unless... unless...." lol.
03-21-2019, 05:01 AM
MrKimper

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Blue Mage, Advanced job (damage dealer) <- this is a wild one but the way the leaks describe blue mage as a job starting at level 50/60 and stuff just feels.. .. "how could you have got that wrong, unless... unless...." lol.

God I think my heart would stop.
03-21-2019, 05:06 AM
CoolDad

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Originally Posted by MrKimper

Okay REAL last last one for the road.

https://wx3.sinaimg.cn/mw690/0071Y47...31p417qgw2.jpg

Good luck for everyone's predication's, I'm hoping we get both full hrothgar and viera but I'll be fine with whatever we get, ALSO PLEEEASE TWO JOBS INSTEAD OF JUST DANCER AND MORE GUN FOOTAGE.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...70/332/fff.gif
03-21-2019, 05:09 AM
BillyKaplan

That Bunny-boy pic is exactly how I imagined they would be (well, build wise), but also exactly why Yoshi-P is uncomfortable with them (pose wise)
03-21-2019, 05:46 AM
Nestama
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Originally Posted by Shougun

Hrothgar male and female, very much like a Ronso without a horn and may even have a horn option as one of the races. The face might be a bit more humanoid than snout-y Ronso with a sort of Pantera (BLESS) / Byakko (primal) visual.
Honestly would be pretty disappointed with this option, as it'd just be another human with animal parts to me .-.
03-21-2019, 05:50 AM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Honestly would be pretty disappointed with this option, as it'd just be another human with animal parts to me .-.

Well I mean they'd still be covered in fur, but fair enough - I was just trying to temper a little bit to "this is a prayer, but.. has 1% chance of being real!" rather than 0.25%! lol.

Just to reference the Bless nose isn't fully human, it's a bit more like the FFXI mithra nose (imo the better miqote lol):

https://i.imgur.com/8GB3ULF.png

Although to what I've seen there are characters of that race that seem to have a more human nose too, either it's an option or racial thing (never played the game, I just use it as a visual reference).
03-21-2019, 07:15 AM
Fukuro

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

That Bunny-boy pic is exactly how I imagined they would be (well, build wise), but also exactly why Yoshi-P is uncomfortable with them (pose wise)

Thats why i call it the best middle-ground bodywise. You could customize them either way - more feminine, for the ones wanting them to be more androgynous - or for others more badass, like a killing machine bunbun (i'd prefer the latter) - the other question would be the animations (what personality traits would they emit)

i personally would prefer them to actually be not too beasty, overly manly, but rather elegant - even going so far to give them a "conceited" kind of personality (kind of what an elfish race would be? elezen don't give me those personality vibes im trying to describe) the female viera did give me some of these vibes, in the short trailer (except this giggling and the flirty poses)
03-21-2019, 03:38 PM
xbahax92

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Honestly would be pretty disappointed with this option, as it'd just be another human with animal parts to me .-.

Like Elezen
Like Roegadyn
Like Lalafell
Like Miqote
Like Au Ra

They all look like Hyur with something attached or altered. I wouldnt be surprised if Hrothgar are cheap-made and that manes just some low texture beard and no fur on their human bods at all.
03-21-2019, 03:53 PM
Duskane

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

Like Elezen
Like Roegadyn
Like Lalafell
Like Miqote
Like Au Ra

They all look like Hyur with something attached or altered. I wouldnt be surprised if Hrothgar are cheap-made and that manes just some low texture beard and no fur on their human bods at all.

im pretty sure thats his point he just wants something different and beastly that's all
it could be for all we know they specifically mentioned they had to do something different with viera and there helmets could lead to Hrothgar actually being different and beastly
03-21-2019, 04:36 PM
BillyKaplan

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Originally Posted by Fukuro

elezen don't give me those personality vibes im trying to describe)

Funny, as I was reading your post and got to 'conceited' I immediately thought of Elezen. But I get your point as I think both races would be conceited in different ways. How to put it... Elezen have an air of nobility to them, stuck-up-ness that comes from their history and their political games. Viera would have none of that, or at least, much, much less. Theirs is a different kind of Xenophobia and is joined by the fact they can likely snap the neck of whomever it is they're talking to with a flick of their wrist. It's... less hollow? More dangerous, compared to Elezen, is how I see it anyway.
03-21-2019, 04:55 PM
AnnaRosa

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

That Bunny-boy pic is exactly how I imagined they would be (well, build wise), but also exactly why Yoshi-P is uncomfortable with them (pose wise)

Interesting the way did imagine the male viera character build is totally different from the picture you mentioned would imagine them being strong, large like larger than Roegadyn, average stature, long and big beard and huge mustache like the mustache wants to run away from the face, aging wrinkles in the eyes in the cheeks and forehead, white old hair, considerably huge beer belly and lots of fur (not like man-bear-pig) small fur all over their body (but not like chewbacca) big fur on the back, chest, arms and belly, more or less middle age men appearance.
03-21-2019, 05:07 PM
Theodric

I just can't take that pose in the artwork seriously no matter which gender is using it. It doesn't look like it belongs on a fierce defender of the forest. It looks like it belongs to someone who is about to let the forest get invaded because they're much too concerned with rolling around in the underbrush.

I'm inclined to brand it 'The Quicksand Pose'. It's exactly the pose I envision when I think of what lurks in Ul'dah on Balmung and Mateus.
03-21-2019, 05:30 PM
Fukuro

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Funny, as I was reading your post and got to 'conceited' I immediately thought of Elezen. But I get your point as I think both races would be conceited in different ways. How to put it... Elezen have an air of nobility to them, stuck-up-ness that comes from their history and their political games. Viera would have none of that, or at least, much, much less. Theirs is a different kind of Xenophobia and is joined by the fact they can likely snap the neck of whomever it is they're talking to with a flick of their wrist. It's... less hollow? More dangerous, compared to Elezen, is how I see it anyway.

Yea..... Maybe the lore tells so, but elezen just look and behave really weird to me. i think it's just their awkward design (also giraffe neck), i really like elfish races, because of their elegance and their "conceited" personality, but elezen don't give me that typical elfish vibe, because of the design choice :S it's just my personal opinion tho, other people might see them totally different. i really like their lore tho

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I just can't take that pose in the artwork seriously no matter which gender is using it. It doesn't look like it belongs on a fierce defender of the forest. It looks like it belongs to someone who is about to let the forest get invaded because they're much too concerned with rolling around in the underbrush.

I'm inclined to brand it 'The Quicksand Pose'. It's exactly the pose I envision when I think of what lurks in Ul'dah on Balmung and Mateus.

Yea but it's more about the "body type" we're talking about. I don't think a viera ingame would ACTUALLY have such a pose tbh. I hope the different face options would allow people to create their vieras after their tastes. (younger/cuter, older, happy and or grumpy face options)
In the end (if male vieras really become a thing) every created viera is something special, because they all will have a different background story.

It's kind of difficult for me to explain myself(my thoughts) in english, im sorry for misunderstandings.
03-21-2019, 07:43 PM
Alleo

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Originally Posted by cicatriz313

Lol I dunno why people are making "let people post what they want" posts. Like of course. It's a public forum. Post whatever you want and stop being bothered by what other people post. If you think you're being attacked there's a block button, if you disagree, reply with a rebuttal.

My post was made because there had been users that kinda implied that if someone wanted the Viera a certain way that they dont truly want Viera and some said how the art showed something else thus it couldnt be different to that. The same with them having to be huge and muscled just because they are protectors. (So you could say my post itself was laso a rebutal against some points)

Edit: And wow that last male Viera picture is hot. The pose might be a bit too much but who is to say that someone cant be a fierce protector of the forest and still have that side to them in their free time? ;) I mean we humans have more than one trait too.
03-21-2019, 09:06 PM
Alacran

If the reports of another actual cat race are to be believed, i can't help but be reminded of the Woren of the Breath of Fire series by Capcom.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080229032150

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20121028123510

https://s1.zerochan.net/Rei.%28Breat...600.291973.jpg

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20091030035031

While obviously more tiger themed than Lion, i must stress a unique aspect of a few Woren is that rarely some have the ability to go into a larger more feral form of wear Tiger.

Interestingly enough, i ca see the Pantera have many call backs to the Woren.
http://img1.mmo.mmo4arab.com/news/20...acepantera.jpg

Including the ability to change forms to more feral bearings.
http://img1.mmo.mmo4arab.com/news/20...02/bless09.jpg

Even with this, i can truly never see FFXIV having beastmen races. Humans with add pieces maybe used as a derogatory term for some, however i see it as consistency among the player races.

I feel nearly the whole of the Mogstation is undeniable proof of this being the design philosophy of the dev team.

I know i don't want to see Argonian Maid levels of Beastly player characters in FFXIV...
https://media.alienwarearena.com/med...dbcc67ed86.jpg

gender locked or no.
03-21-2019, 09:54 PM
cicatriz313

I would be 100% okay with a pantera looking race. They don't seem THAT far off of the humanesque features the other races have. Definitely wouldn't get any shapeshifting though lol.
03-21-2019, 10:01 PM
Lacan

But if this new race is all male... does that mean they... you know... :v
03-21-2019, 10:08 PM
Fyce

What you wrote:

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Originally Posted by CoolDad

People discussing their opinions on a forum for discussion of opinions? Say it ain't so.

What you should've written:

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Originally Posted by CoolDad

Snowflakes belittling everyone who is not part of their echo chamber, thinking their opinion is better than anyone else's, while bringing a lot of toxicity and making the community look like trash on a forum for discussion of opinions? Say it ain't so.

I'd love it if people were actually "discussing". That's pretty much why I completly left BLU threads and now absolutly don't care about what the official forums think. I'm just coming to read daily dose of useless drama and to remind everyone that these debates are worthless both to the community, and to Square Enix.
03-21-2019, 10:09 PM
Mansion

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Originally Posted by Fyce

I'm just coming to read daily dose of useless drama.

Thanks for your valuable contribution then.
03-21-2019, 10:11 PM
Wolfyboy

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Originally Posted by Lacan

But if this new race is all male... does that mean they... you know... :v

You know lore wise a female counterpart could exist, it just wouldn't be playable if gender locked. If they went a completely all male race and both Viera and Hrothgar were gender-locked (If Hrothgar exists) then there would have to be a race that would be gender-locked by either keeping Viera female only or making a new female only race well unlocking male Viera.
03-21-2019, 10:16 PM
Lacan

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Originally Posted by Wolfyboy

You know lore wise a female counterpart could exist, it just wouldn't be playable if gender locked. If they went a completely all male race and both Viera and Hrothgar were gender-locked (If Hrothgar exists) then there would have to be a race that would be gender-locked by either keeping Viera female only or making a new female only race well unlocking male Viera.

That's a good point, but I really wouldn't mind a race with lore like the Galka again either. Where there are only so many to begin with and they reincarnate instead of new ones being born. I thought the Galka had the most interesting background of all the races in 11 as a result of that.

… the gay implications are always welcome too.
03-21-2019, 10:17 PM
Fyce

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Originally Posted by Mansion

Thanks for your valuable contribution then.

You're
welcome.

Also, thank you for proving my point with your completly unnecessary and unvualuable answer to me.
You, pointing the finger at me the way you did has the exact same "value" as what you denounce. Congratulations, you played yourself.

Edit: When I said "thank you", I meant it. Really. I made a post about how these forums are nothing but people basically trolling and flaming eachother, and the first thing I get in return is a sarcastic and useless answer. I literally couldn't have asked for a better example.
03-21-2019, 10:35 PM
Crushnight

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Originally Posted by Lacan

But if this new race is all male... does that mean they... you know... :v

If a race is mono gendered AND has sexual interests then it would be ingrained in their society that they can have 'fun' with each other, now depending on when said race was introduced to other races and their societies will determine if liking the opposite gender form is a big or small outlier or not.
03-21-2019, 11:47 PM
Duskane

people thought Viera with the rabbit ears from GS would be weird but we will probably be able to have lion guys,with a lion helmet on the paladin lion mounts
03-21-2019, 11:50 PM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by Duskane

people thought Viera with the rabbit ears from GS would be weird but we will probably be able to have lion guys,with a lion helmet on the paladin lion mounts

Lion telling us about being a lion wearing lions riding a lion.

Lionception. :3

Also talking about mounts then, bear race when? :P.
03-21-2019, 11:59 PM
Corue

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Originally Posted by Duskane

people thought Viera with the rabbit ears from GS would be weird but we will probably be able to have lion guys,with a lion helmet on the paladin lion mounts

Lion guy on lion mount wearing the Lionliege set with the Lionliege weapons emblazoned with a lion FC crest displaying the Gillionaire title holding an Atma of the Lion undertaking the "Maybe He's a Lion" levequest while fighting a Winged Lion. Hr's also not telling the truth.
03-22-2019, 01:24 AM
DevonEllwood

Less than 24 hours away, right? I'll be at work, but I'll be watching and waiting for the possible riot.
03-22-2019, 01:30 AM
Crushnight

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Originally Posted by DevonEllwood

Less than 24 hours away, right? I'll be at work, but I'll be watching and waiting for the possible riot.

32-33 hrs away now
03-22-2019, 01:35 AM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by DevonEllwood

Less than 24 hours away, right? I'll be at work, but I'll be watching and waiting for the possible riot.

Quote:

Naoki Yoshida Keynote Address *
From Friday, March 22, 2019 at 6:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. (PDT)
Producer and Director Naoki Yoshida opens the show with his keynote address, so be ready for new announcements regarding Shadowbringers!
* Also featured on the English commentary stream.

https://fanfest.finalfantasyxiv.com/2018-19/jp/

https://i.imgur.com/dYS91wz.png

Get Hype.

I had found / used another clock tracker but apparently the date was wrong, so just use the FFXIV fanfest website lol.
03-22-2019, 01:38 AM
DevonEllwood

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

32-33 hrs away now

lol wow I was way off. I've not been keeping track but I thought it would be in the morning my time. I'll be asleep instead. If something goes bad, make sure to riot for me.
03-22-2019, 01:40 AM
Lacan

It'll be 9:30 my time, so I'll be in bed with my laptop by then :v I probably wont get much sleep that night. Dat hype.
03-22-2019, 01:41 AM
WhiteArchmage

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Originally Posted by Shougun

https://i.imgur.com/dYS91wz.png

Oof, thought I had a little more time. Gonna have to rush back home lol

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Originally Posted by DevonEllwood

lol wow I was way off. I've not been keeping track but I thought it would be in the morning my time. I'll be asleep instead. If something goes bad, make sure to riot for me.

I'll probably throw a fit for like 3 people, if that helps :D
03-22-2019, 01:55 AM
Crushnight

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Originally Posted by DevonEllwood

lol wow I was way off. I've not been keeping track but I thought it would be in the morning my time. I'll be asleep instead. If something goes bad, make sure to riot for me.

DW i will i can't sleep angry and i'll be too anxious tomorrow to sleep beforehand so fair warning to everyone expect incredibly tired rants or nothing till morning from me XD
03-22-2019, 01:58 AM
BillyKaplan

This FanFest needs to happen so that whatever happens, we can all begin to move on and heal
03-22-2019, 02:05 AM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

This FanFest needs to happen so that whatever happens, we can all begin to move on and heal

Lol state of the forums: "JUST RIP IT OFF, I DON'T CARE WHAT'S UNDERNEATH- TAKE IT OFF".

How painful/funny would it be if Yoshida went through the whole presentation without mentioning race, makes a side comment on how he's got more to reveal to outlets as we get closer to release and steps off stage... XD.
03-22-2019, 02:39 AM
cicatriz313

You guys are making this sound like a natural disaster just happened or something.

Sending you all my thoughts and prayers.
03-22-2019, 02:55 AM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by cicatriz313

You guys are making this sound like a natural disaster just happened or something.

Sending you all my thoughts and prayers.

What if I start a gofundme? Please pay for my emotional support guinea pig, $50,000.
03-22-2019, 03:23 AM
Theodric

It's my birthday in early April. Hrothgar - to my tastes - would make for an excellent early present! ;)

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