Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

I had a Haukke Manor HM run with the tank dual boxing a DPS account. A NIN in this case. The guy was pretty much in autofollow the whole run, auto attacking everything, not dodging anything. Barely doing anything. ; ; I asked if he was dual boxing because it was too obvious. He said "no". I didn't want to say anything to avoid conflict. But oh boi, people don't care about others anymore it seems. ; ;

Queue with friends for Dun Scaith. Halfway through first fight, WHM starts talking shit about one of my friends not doing enough dps. I leave it alone because it's one person and I figure they'll stop etc etc.

Get to 2nd fight and halfway through the fight, WHM goes "hey kick (insert name here) she isnt doing anything" O-Oh you mean as opposed to you WHM who is barely healing, barely doing dps, and yet still finds a way to get hit by almost every mechanic? Imagine what you could accomplish if you focused on your own shit. sigh, but again, I don't say anything because I figure no one is paying them any mind.

Halfway through Queen, WHM still running her mouth and BLM decides to start running their mouth too ganging up on my friend. At some point the BLM posted a link to what he said was a screenshot. I'm on PS4 and it was the middle of the fight (which now that I think about it, it was awesome of that BLM to stop dpsing, take a screenshot, upload it to imgur, and then post it in chat in the middle of the fight. Real team player, that one.). but from the way he talked about it, I can only assume it was a screenshot of his parser. He kept saying it was proof my friend wasn't doing enough dps so what else could it be, ya know? Nah, I don't play that. You can run your mouth by your lonesome all you want for all I care. When you gang up on someone, who isn't even trying to fight back btw, because you think you smell blood in the water. Noooooope, now I step in and words start flying. Someone neither the WHM nor BLM understand how they were being rude. Really? You're ganging up on one person, saying they suck and they should be kicked? Oh yeah, awesome, thanks for your valuable contributions!

Anywho, get to Diablos and at this point, they've gone quiet. Not trying to toot my own horn, but it's fascinating how fast bullies shut up when someone steps up to them. In any case, as per usual, tons of people die during the fight, but guess which two people died the most? ding ding ding, you guessed it. The WHM and BLM. Funny how you two run your mouths at other's mistakes, but don't have anything to say about your own.

Wanna know the kicker to all this though? The thing that truly makes my blood boil? They were both mentors.

100% serious: if someone is DPS shaming and posting parser data - report for harassment.

There are good ways and bad ways to encourage players to do better - shaming is not one of the good ways.

Just had a pretty epic run in Haukke Manor NM - friend wants to level dragoon, so I join them as paladin. We get another lancer and an ast.
Now, Haukke Manor NM is one of the dungeons I like to do slow pulls in - mainly because of the Succubi that are roaming around and should be stunned. Also its a level 28-31 duty, so basically no class has any real AoE - which is even more true in this case, with this set-up.
However, the ast is obviously used to big pulls, because while I'm pulling the first Succubus, they run ahead and pull to more groups (one including another succubus). I ask politly of them not to pull and my friend points out that we dont have AoE anyways. The ast, however, disagrees and is fully convinced that dragoons get a frontal AoE at level 31 - after hes told that thats not the case (nevermind that the lancer was level 28 so even if it would have been true, they wouldnt have got that skill yet) and that skill is indeed level 42 they say "Have fun then." and disconnects.
So that douchebag is now hoping we're going to kick him because he got stuck in a low level leveling dungeon without AoE and therefor no massive pulls like in level 60 dutys? We dont think so!
Instead of kicking him, we went on with our journey, I crossclass cure, both dps help with tanking a little and we still finish the dungeon within 20 minutes, despite having no healer.

...and I hope that person logged into the client about 10 times during that 20 minute run just to be furious about seeing that his character was still stuck in the dungeon and not kicked yet.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

What they gain in levels in PotD is taken away when they leave. If they learned nothing and didn't take the time to read the tool tips when they learned the skill, then they were never going to try.
Boss fights after Floor 49.
Would you really want level-ilevel to play a part in content that is open for all?
That's fair enough, especially if it's the players first Class and they don't have any cross class skills.
It ultimately depends on the player. As I have said before, if you've mostly been running into bad players, then you're just an unlucky person... or I'm very lucky (excluding loot rolls).

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But the exp gained in PotD is easily gained with no effort, you can grind the palace all over again to level one class from 1 to 60 so fast that people are using it over the roulette. When i leveled Monk there in that fashion i looked at guides and practiced in dungueons before going into anything serious with the class.That is what i did, sadly not everyone does that and just jump into the high level content thinking they know what they are doing and giving orders to actual player who know their job.


It's... It's good to level a class and it is fun, i really like the place, but before i left the game for a break recently i just encountered to many players who behaves like it's entitled to everything because "I just leveled that class to level "x" in PotG and i know how it works"... Or you just see the occasional player in a raid with a job (not a class, a job) because they didnt had time to level another one to 60. Or ignoring advice because "it's a story dungueon and i do what i want, dont tell me how to play".

I love the game and i know most of the community it's not like this, but this kind of thing it's getting out of hand at an alarming rate.

I know this is different for this thread but I had a bizarre loss the other night in pvp Frontline Shatter

Start was great and we completely break 2 big ices and a bunch of smallstuff and sitting at 1271. 800 point lead. When suddenly the alliances decide that they'd just... zerg bases? So A (mine) was defending the usual regroup point (at the base of the valley leading to your respective base). Alliance B decided to zerg adder and C zerged male. I couldn't believe it.

They get swallowed. Then we get wrecked at our spot and then suddenly our base was taken.

Never have I seen a loss like that. It was truely a specticle to go from a decisive win to a loss

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Originally Posted by Zhamkyong

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Or you just see the occasional player in a raid with a job (not a class, a job) because they didnt had time to level another one to 60.
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I think you have those switched around...

You start as a class and unlock the jobs as you level up.
(Not counting the expansion jobs)

My duty finder group just broke up at the first boss of Wanderer's Palace (Hard) of all things.

The tank was new and said so, pulled small pulls, but they were not a problem. The other dps was kind of low dps, but was not really an issue since it wasn't completely horrible and they had the returnee marker so it was understandable. My dps was a lot better, but probably still wasn't the greatest either since I was only on a level 56 job with average ilevel 126 gear.

The healer, however, commented on the small pulls. They also did not dps at all, meaning they just stood there asking for bigger pulls in between the occasional heal. At this point I'm not really caring about their behaviour, since I'm just focusing on my job in order to get a clear and my tomes and if the tank wants to pull small that's fine with me and we're killing stuff just fine. They also weren't overtly rude about it, so whatever.

[2:41](Tank) hello
[2:41](DPS) whats good
[2:41](Healer) hi
(First mob pulled solo here.)
[2:41](Healer) ?
[2:41](Tank) im new
[2:42](Healer) you can pull more....
[2:42](Tank) yea
(Second and third groups pulled one at a time.)
[2:44](Healer) don't worry. pull a ton, I got you
[2:44](Tank) kool
(Rest of the groups pulled one at a time, although this is forced by the dungeon mechanics.)

Anyway, almost immediately after the boss fight starts the other DPS disconnects, and neither the tank or the healer helped with spear adds. The tank because he didn't know to, and the healer because they weren't dpsing in the first place. Needless to say the boss wiped. No biggie. It happens. I asked for help with the spears mid-fight since I was only outputting enough damage on my own to take out one wave of spears in time for the next one to spawn. The tank stepped up to help once I asked, but by then it was too late. Stacks were just too high by then:

[2:48](Mhaeric Llystrom) help kill spears
[2:48]Frumious Koheel Ja: Burn!
[2:49]Frumious Koheel Ja: Burn!
[2:49](Healer) dammit
[2:49]Still Waters is no longer sealed!

On the way to the boss again, I briefly explained the mechs of the boss fight as follows:

[2:50](Mhaeric Llystrom) those spears add a stacking damage increasing debuff
[2:50](Mhaeric Llystrom) they have to die immediately
[2:50](Tank) ook
[2:50](Healer) the other dps. dc'd
[2:50](Healer) and I totally forgot that the spears had a debuff
[2:50](Mhaeric Llystrom) even more reason to help
[2:52]Still Waters will be sealed off in 15 seconds!

We started the next fight with the other dps back. The tank helped dps spears, the other dps was doing their stuff albeit with low output, but they were doing their job so I'm happy. But I noticed that the healer was not healing me at all, although they were being very diligent in healing everyone else between all their standing around not doing anything. Not one Cure, regen, or AoE heal thrown my way despite the unavoidable targeted damage that this boss puts out. I died shortly before killing the second spear (the first one of the pair that spawns in the second wave) as a result. Another full wave of spears went by before they decide to raise me, by which point the fight had already long been lost due to everyone having like 8 to 10 stacks of the debuff. I responded to the raise with:

[2:53](Mhaeric Llystrom) raise uses more mana than healing
[2:53](Mhaeric Llystrom) just saying
[2:54]Frumious Koheel Ja: Burn!
[2:54]Still Waters is no longer sealed!

So now the raid has wiped and they immediately came up with this gem:

[2:54](Healer) you're a bit of a jerk.
[2:54](Healer) just saying

So let me make sure I understand this logic. They're the one who purposely wiped a fight that relies on a dps check by refusing to heal the group's primary source of dps presumably over some offense taken by explaining mechanics after a previous wipe... and I'm the one who's a bit of a jerk. Okay, sure.

[2:54](Mhaeric Llystrom) learn to heal then
[2:54](Healer) haha
[2:54](Mhaeric Llystrom) this fight is clearly not going to happen

The tank leaves without saying anything right at this point. I follow, since I don't want to bother getting further into an argument with this person who is petty enough to wipe a fight over... I'm not even sure what.

[2:55]The Wanderer's Palace (Hard) has ended.

Good riddance to that healer. I totally would have stayed to help the other two if the tank hadn't taken the initiative to leave on their own. Hopefully that tank and dps's next runs were a good one like mine was.

I know it is light farm and blablablablabla DPS Blablablabl more DPS becuase this game is only DPS blablablab DPS because bablabla DPS DPS and DPS etc etc etc.

BUT

For the love of God, can you tank the adds on Faust (AS1) when you are a TANK? I'm tired of being healer-punching-bag.

This happened in WoD just a few minutes ago:

Before Cerberus, I tell the alliances what to do (adds, belly, chains) since there are always some people completely oblivious to mechanics in WoD.

I'm in alliance B, so our job is to become tiny and be eaten.
Our tank dies because he didn't go near the purple orb add.
Me: "I told you, you need to become tiny in order to be eaten alive! Tiny!"

Tank: "how do I become tiny"

Me: "scroll up, I literally wrote it down for you one or two minutes ago"

silence

I know it's nothing major, but these people always baffle me.