Final Fantasy XIV and a Culture of Enabling

No its okay to be bad in DF, the other players are suppose to carry you after all.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

No its okay to be bad in DF, the other players are suppose to carry you after all.

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are you still on this crusade of yours?

Give it a rest already, Caurcas. Go solo palace of the dead or something; that's plenty hard and doesn't require you to play with other players.

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Originally Posted by Ammokkx

are you still on this crusade of yours?

Give it a rest already, Caurcas. Go solo palace of the dead or something; that's plenty hard and doesn't require you to play with other players.

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All they want to do is frame themselves as some sort of DF messiah sent from the heavens to deliver us from all the toxic casuals "ruining" the player base. The sad part is I really don't believe they are trolling. They fully believe the word vomit they are spewing, and that's even worse than being a troll.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

All they want is to do is frame themselves as some sort of DF messiah sent from the heavens to deliver us from all the toxic casuals "ruining" the player base. The sad part is I really don't believe they are trolling. They fully believe the word vomit they are spewing, and that's even worse than being a troll.

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Oh I know they're not trolling, which is why I bothered to at least try to tell them to bugger off to solo content and find some measure of inner peace. All that anger and self-vindication can't be good for them.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

All they want is to do is frame themselves as some sort of DF messiah sent from the heavens to deliver us from all the toxic casuals "ruining" the player base. The sad part is I really don't believe they are trolling. They fully believe the word vomit they are spewing, and that's even worse than being a troll.

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Bruh, I just want us to respect each others time. Its a simple thing that you've got twisted into me having some sort of complex. Six years of having to deal with people not respecting the time of others makes a person bitter.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

Bruh, I just want us to respect each others time. Its a simple thing that you've got twisted into me having some sort of complex. Six years of having to deal with people not respecting the time of others makes a person bitter.

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I'm not twisting anything. You clearly have some sort of complex.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I'm not twisting anything. You clearly have some sort of complex.

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Thanks doctor!

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

It is the definition of "Selfish". Something many consider an undesirable trait.
Ultimately it's up to you what you value or what morals you hold, but many people will look down upon someone who always considers themselves first in every situation.

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The problem with this is that many of those "casuals" are the most selfish people in the game. With their I don't care how my performance is ruining everyone elses fun so I dont need to learn my job attitudes aloing with their super insane levels of entitlement absolutely crushing the signinficance and value of in game stuff for everyone else for no reason other than "because I want it"

This is quite literally the most selfish thing in the game.. Absolutely no one prevents them from getting something the same way everyone else does but their own laziness and entitlement is pure selfishness.

Why shoulld I make an effort I cant be arsed. Who cares if iIm dragging 3, 7, 23 other people down.....

And then they're the ones who say the "good" players are the selfish "elitist" ones..

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Originally Posted by Dzian

...and then they're the ones who say the good players are the selfish ones..

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I was kinda always amused at that ngl. Its like they think that as long as they are benefitting from that, its not selfish.

I never understood the "Wasting people's time" argument. It's in every aspect of your life, you can not escape it. Work, Home, School, Store, Amusement parks, library. Do you just openly talk to the people in line in front of you at the Grocery store and complain that paying in 1$ because it is wasting everyone's time. They pay the same amount of money you do, why is your money/time worth more than anyone else? On the forums, complaints like that come across as someone just wanting to complain, not actively try to fix the situation.

Anyhow if you want to change the world for the better I'm all for it, but the best way to do it is to lead by example. I think "attacking" someone or pointing them out is just going to make them dig their heels in. A post complaining about "My Time!!" is not really going to make someone change their ways. *shrugs* just my 29gil