Roleplay/Partyfinder Discrepancies & Policy Enforcement by GM's

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Originally Posted by Julisia

Oh it's another one of those people "It's not my job to educate you." I'm not denying that stuff is happening in those clubs, but you have a choice not to go if you don't like it. It is not your duty to crucify those who want to have a good time on their own terms.

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I don't care what people do in this game but if instead of coming to talk to me, I will dedicate you to reading the post that I put, you would understand what the OP intends
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV...eb2x&context=3

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Originally Posted by Endeleon

LOL... tell me type of content that people post lvl 999 ads for 24/7. Don't even try telling me the content selling, because that's against the rules and those players routinely get banned. They just consistently take over other accounts and make more bots. Don't equate these things because it's not gonna be a win for you.

Tell me one thing of raids/dungeon/etc that is there 24/7? That multiple people post for the same exact event? You can't think of any, huh? Sometimes there are ads for discords for raid finders, but I rarely see those 24/7.

And also i love to see this assumption that I am raider and are against RPers. I have literally this week, criticized raiders for being inhumane about the ultimate cancellation. I am a equal opportunity call outer of entitled behavior. Yes, YOU belong in fellowship finder, just like all the raid finder fellowships, blue mage fellowships, etc.

Also I literally use XIvlauncher, and see none of these things, so I'm not personally bothered by it. I still think you need to learn to use the right tools. I would say the same if there was some raiders who posted 'COME TO THE STONE, SKY, SEA FOR TRAINING IN RAIDING' and such thing 24/7.

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I'm pretty sure I stated that I didn't condone to PFs being up 24/7. I never once assumed you were a raider or against the RP'ers. You criticized raiders? Good for you! As for me belonging in the fellowship finder... Hang on let me laugh a little. L O L... I find the fellowship finder the be a little moot in more ways than one and needs to be adjusted just a tinge. Stuff gets drowned pretty quickly with the fellowship feature of the game. I choose not to use it. It's my decision to make, not yours. You're the one here making the assumptions, not me.

P.S. I like how you broadcasted you use XIVLauncher. (;

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Originally Posted by Nayout

I don't care what people do in this game but if instead of coming to talk to me, I will dedicate you to reading the post that I put, you would understand what the OP intends
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV...eb2x&context=3

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Reading that almost sounds like virtue signaling with a bit of "Deus Vult against Degeneracy xDDD!!"

Play song of Fall Out 4 ''I just want to set the world on fire...I just want to light a flame in your heart''

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Originally Posted by rance-sama

Reading that almost sounds like virtue signaling with a bit of "Deus Vult against Degeneracy xDDD!!"

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And reading back through this thread a few times, there's a few points where people have expressed a problem with "degeneracy" without going into detail as to what they consider to be that. Which... unfortunately paints a good picture of what they consider that.

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Originally Posted by SoapDish

I'm pretty sure I stated that I didn't condone to PFs being up 24/7. I never once assumed you were a raider or against the RP'ers. You criticized raiders? Good for you! As for me belonging in the fellowship finder... Hang on let me laugh a little. L O L... I find the fellowship finder the be a little moot in more ways than one and needs to be adjusted just a tinge. Stuff gets drowned pretty quickly with the fellowship feature of the game. I choose not to use it. It's my decision to make, not yours. You're the one here making the assumptions, not me.

P.S. I like how you broadcasted you use XIVLauncher. (;

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If you can misuse the PF, I can use xivlauncher as it doesn't hurt anyone. :) People talk about using reshade and twitch stream with ACT. Do you think they are going to ban me because I have the gall to auto-filter run sellers? Pft. Stop trying to act holierthanthou lmao. Also I like how you literaly backtracked on EVERYTHING you replied to me on. What is your point, then?

Also the only reason you think Fellowship finder is "moot" as you call it is because you don't use it. It's a better feature than PF for finding long term events, so i don't understand your mentality here.

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Originally Posted by Ashemmi

For the most part, most do not, there's a big difference in 18+ and ERP venues. Those who RP typically know the difference. The assumption outside is that 18+ connotates a certain type of play. That said, nightly there are a number that link to websites detailing services offered.

Ex: Erotic Roleplay (ERP) includes...

I host 18+ events, and have for years as the company of adults is preferred both socially and for comfort. Nobody here knows what the images above actually reference, it's not available to us. It's not black and white, no matter how polar we want to make ourselves. It's not a GM hating on RP. We can be fairly sure it's not just about venues that prefer to cater to adults. If we reasonably ask each other 'what' the goal was, the answer is pretty clear. The GM went about it wrong.

ERP should be kept private, between consenting adults. It shouldn't be front and center for public view.

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Well, I have been in several places both in Crystal and Primal and I know what happens, in Crystal we participated in a VERY crowded place in Morbol where some friends (4 lalas) paid a girl for ERP and in the statement they never mentioned from this.

LuckySeven, which is a guild that at the time communicated through the cities in Hyperion, I never participated but my guild mates did and they told me everything. You can put 18+ but in the end you do not control who enters these places or what can be done, there is also no way to verify the age of the people. It is a serious ideal world as you propose it but the community of this game has degenerated the ERP quite a few and now they believe that automatically any place 18+ is ERP and since you have no way to control anything, then problems come.

If I want, I can ask for names of the places because I have been to many and in all of them it was the same, the only places where nothing ever happened was precisely in places where that 18+ was not and I tell you because we had a PR Bar in Spanish.

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Originally Posted by GothicGirlGwyn

Also not sure if this has been posted, but there are people who are getting those false marks/actions removed from their accounts because of this GMs actions.

Regarding RP PF Issue: GM Action Being Removed from Account https://imgur.com/a/T1lmx5R

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Oh dear. Imagine LARPing as the ERP Police, being all smug saying "I reported them ERPers xDDD! Take that degeneracy!" and then wake up to see that your reports had no effect whatsoever.
Sucks to suck I guess.

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Originally Posted by rance-sama

Oh dear. Imagine LARPing as the ERP Police, being all smug saying "I reported them ERPers xDDD! Take that degeneracy!" and then wake up to see that your reports had no effect whatsoever.
Sucks to suck I guess.

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Most likely just damage control. Outrage is bad for business.

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Originally Posted by Endeleon

Also the only reason you think Fellowship finder is "moot" as you call it is because you don't use it. It's a better feature than PF for finding long term events, so i don't understand your mentality here.

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Club advertisements are only done on the day they're open. Multiple party finders for the same club? I'll concede the point that's probably obnoxious. Sometimes somethings happen in these club community structures, like a change in management, workers, person IRL stuff happening - Stuff like that is short burst, not long term. Fellowship Finder? Not really viable.