You want to worsen my game experience, something practical and useful, because you don't want to see people jumping.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadJoeRed
That is absurd. That is ludicrous. But I wouldn't expect anything less than insanity from someone who clearly lives and breathes the game in its current form.
[dev1008] About Jumping
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03-16-2011, 05:53 AMXbob42
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03-16-2011, 05:58 AMMalakhimHe technically isn't ruining your game experience because jump or content requiring its implementation hasn't been added yet. If anything, you run the possibility of "ruining" his already existent one by asking for the featureQuote:
Originally Posted by Xbob42
Not agreeing with him or condoning his post. Just some food for thought.
I've pretty much settled on "if there's stuff that requires my jumping, by all means add it. If there are other ways around any issues, then don't." -
03-16-2011, 06:04 AMNephera
rift has a neat ability i've seen where you click a skill and select a landing area and it'll launch you towards that area, its meant to be used as a bull rush for tanks but i've seen it used in platforming, perhaps we could use that for jumping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FJNkvNuG3Q#t=4m45s Here's an example, around 4m 45s ( link should auto put you there) -
03-16-2011, 06:05 AMXbob42The content that requires jumping is already there, all those tiny little fences, itty bitty cliffs and amazingly annoying inch-high bricks found all throughout eorzea, that by all rights you should be able to step over, let alone jump...Quote:
Originally Posted by Malakhim
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03-16-2011, 07:18 AMAnty
they should just add jump in a way so it fits to lala and all other races in an appropriate way (with downtime so nobody abuses it and perhaps automated nice animated version for cliffs, bit bigger distances and such).
I bet the ppl who like jump are happy and the ppl who don't won't be pissed about it (at least not for long). Since its only a bit of more immersion into the 3D world.
I dont think ive seen someone quit a game cause there was a jump feature, but i think ppl quit if they feel restricted too much. And honestly, if ppl leave because of a jump feature its an excuse for leaving something they don't like anyways :)
Perhaps some are wow spoiled (never really tried it) but the mmos i played so far where you CAN jump, ppl use it not very often, and depending on how its animated its not annoying as well.
And some ppl started jumping in games so they prevent auto-logout due to afk (which ff doenst have).
The few ppl who DO jump in an annoying way, will , if ignored, give up fast and after a while it will be used as a way of evading little cliffs, bigger rocks, trash on the ground... and well thats it.
The only other way that would make things feel more immerse would be automated animation to climb up or down, make bigger steps over stones, etc. but that would need much more development not to feel clunky...
(swimming is a different story since that is imo a great feature if used for story, underwater realms and such, but thats another story, so like most functions... if done right, it makes things richer, if you dont like it, dont do it)
Oh and: seeing ppl useing the laugh emote or the clap emote all over? that really has no practical use (which jumping can have) is better then?
I think in an mmo you just have to accept other ppl as long as they dont offend you. That makes a game much more fun. Be a bit more tollerant, or play a single player game. there are so many things that ppl could complain about. I dont like the fact every female character looks like a hostess.. but some ppl love it... its their way of dressing so WHAT? other ppl dress in pink which i think is ugly, but thats just me, so WHAT?... get my poin? :D
Bigger things have to be discussed, this is just another feature ppl CAN do if they feel like it. -
03-16-2011, 07:40 AMDubont
A button jump is not needed. A ledge jump (such as what is found in 13 and LoZ) would be more acceptable for numerous reasons. 1) It couldn't be spammed. 2) It could only be used where needed. 3) It would have no effect on battle at all. 4) It wouldn't lag the entire game because there wouldn't be a whole team of people jumping around for no reason.
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03-16-2011, 07:50 AMXbob421) Who cares if it could be spammed? Besides really, really anal weirdos on this forum and this forum alone and NO WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD? 2) Yay! Limit us! 3) Jumping almost never has any affect on battle in MMOs. 4) Jumping doesn't lag any game, and if it does you've done a horrible, horrible job making a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubont
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03-16-2011, 07:54 AMMalakhimIt would probably lag FFXIV... >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob42
That's not a stab at you or jumping as much as it's my own passive-aggressive attitude towards SE handling everything server side... :( -
03-16-2011, 07:55 AMDubont1) It isn't just this forum. 2) Yes, limit us because it shouldn't be here in the first place. 3) Ever played WoW or PWI? What about RoM and Alloids? 4) Ever played a guild match in any PvP heavy game that has jump? During battle with 30+ characters on a screen, jumping will lag your game 90% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob42
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03-16-2011, 07:56 AMJennestiaYep -- more than lag it would likely just be delayed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malakhim