What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

I liked a lot of 5.3, but this always seemed weird to me. It really seems like it was done for the sake of 'rule of cool', rather than because it made sense for the character to actually do that.

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I never really took that part as actually being Emet. I interpreted the Emet shade as some base consciousness within the crystal itself.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

I liked a lot of 5.3, but this always seemed weird to me. It really seems like it was done for the sake of 'rule of cool', rather than because it made sense for the character to actually do that.

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Been on a deep dungeon grind while nursing a virus, so I'll hop back in here. I'm fairly certain it's suggested somewhere that he did this primarily to save Elidibus from carrying the burden of their duty alone - being a mishmash of the Amaurotine's and Zodiark's will, it's likely he would have just kept going on until he burned himself out or wound up defeated after who knows how long. From that perspective, it feels quite in character for him to want to save one of his comrades from such a fate, considering his own struggles.

That's not to say 5.3 didn't feel like a rushed and mildly clumsy attempt at matching the same emotional highs as 5.0, and that I don't have any problems with it - but I find that a better interpretation than some bland fanservice grab done for the WoL.

...though after EW, that hardly matters anymore.

"Rule of cool" dictactes every AAA game plot from Square-Enix from the last decade.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

"Rule of cool" dictactes every AAA game plot from Square-Enix from the last decade.

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It really do be like that. This has had the unfortunate side effect of making most of their plots suck.

I would like to hear some peoples examples of good storytelling in rpgs.


I personally still hold FFIX as one the series's best stories told with an interesting and diverse cast, its themes, its world and even its main villian. Nothing in FFXIV can ever surpass it imo

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

I personally still hold FFIX as one the series's best stories told with an interesting and diverse cast, its themes, its world and even its main villian. Nothing in FFXIV can ever surpass it imo

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I'd say it's one of the worst, but I really hate how half of the cast becomes irrelevant after Disc 2, and how off the wall nuts it goes.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I'd say it's one of the worst, but I really hate how half of the cast becomes irrelevant after Disc 2, and how off the wall nuts it goes.

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I have no idea what game you were playing because this isnt true at all.

It's been a long time since I played through FFIX. All I really remember about it is I don't like Zidane (In fact, I'd say I border on hating him). Vivi, Garnet, Amarant, and Steiner are my favorite characters. At least from the main party. Blank, Beatrix, Dr. Tott, and Cid from the side bar.

Iirc, my favorite thing about IX's story is the whole Terra consuming other planets and the history behind it inside of that one dungeon with the talking faces and the airship/drone boss. I'd say IX has a lot of good setup, great music, great characters, but I always sorta felt like its follow through was lacking. And I absolutely hate its rendition of the ATB system. Sooo... god awfully... slowwwww.

A lot of its best parts do happen in the first half. The highly memorable Black Waltzes, particularly #1 and #3. Bahamut vs. Alexander. Iirc, Disc 2 ends with Garnet cutting her hair right? God, it's been so long.

Alright forget my personal pick then, I still want to know yours and why

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

It's been a long time since I played through FFIX. All I really remember about it is I don't like Zidane (In fact, I'd say I border on hating him). Vivi, Garnet, Amarant, and Steiner are my favorite characters. At least from the main party. Blank, Beatrix, Dr. Tott, and Cid from the side bar.

Iirc, my favorite thing about IX's story is the whole Terra consuming other planets and the history behind it inside of that one dungeon with the talking faces and the airship/drone boss. I'd say IX has a lot of good setup, great music, great characters, but I always sorta felt like its follow through was lacking. And I absolutely hate its rendition of the ATB system. Sooo... god awfully... slowwwww.

A lot of its best parts do happen in the first half. The highly memorable Black Waltzes, particularly #1 and #3. Bahamut vs. Alexander. Iirc, Disc 2 ends with Garnet cutting her hair right? God, it's been so long.

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It ends with the death of the first major antagonist.
I disagree with Ryu's comment that characters become irrelevant with Disc 2, Disc 2 still have a really strong character writing and some of the best scenes of the secondary cast, it's still very much part of the "good first half" of FFIX.
Disc 3 is where the story gets a bit weaker despite a memorable start with Alexander vs Bahamut.

Also yes, despite its faults FFIX is still my favorite out of the entire series. I get why people dislike the second half and the gameplay but it never really bothered me that much. The game has my favorite main cast, one of my favorite villain of the series, a really strong start and my favorite soundtrack of the bunch. (even though I'm a big apologist for FFXIII-2's soundtrack. I know people hate it but I never understood why, it's really good and it's one of the first who dared to explore new sounds and music genre for the series)