Difficult experience in Forked Tower – a reminder to respect public content

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Originally Posted by Infindox

You keep bringing up every time "stop being a lazy player" to people who are attempting to run this and aren't able to find a Discord group because they are all full. I wouldn't even put it past some servers to have only a handful of first clears per run now.
Only 518 people have the demon cube mount, according to ffxivcollect. It's been almost a month since this content has been out, something 's up other then "people are too lazy to use discord".

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ffxivcollect is very out of date.

even the day yoshi p claimed "there's been 400 clears" fflogs had over 700 plds with clears lol

join one of the 10 discords and host a fresh prog (I see signups for this literally every day)

ffxivcollect only has data on public characters, so it will never be 100% accurate. but i do believe it can be used as an indication for engagement and I dont think it would be hugely different - between public and private characters. look at the BA and DRS clears. as much as people want to say BA is beloved, it is beloved by those that do it. it is not engaged with, by the vast majority of the playerbase.

i dont believe FT will be any different, in this respect. this is not content that is going to be engaged with, by the wider population, which is a real miss on CBU3.

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Originally Posted by ChrysOCE

ffxivcollect only has data on public characters, so it will never be 100% accurate. but i do believe it can be used as an indication for engagement and I dont think it would be hugely different - between public and private characters. look at the BA and DRS clears. as much as people want to say BA is beloved, it is beloved by those that do it. it is not engaged with, by the vast majority of the playerbase.

i dont believe FT will be any different, in this respect. this is not content that is going to be engaged with, by the wider population, which is a real miss on CBU3.

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There is actually more than 9000 different chara who have clear the last boss of FT. Way more than what ff14collect is saying. (20x)

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Originally Posted by Bryson

even the day yoshi p claimed "there's been 400 clears" fflogs had over 700 plds with clears lol

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Is there a strict 1 paladin per 48 players? If not, I don't see how that is relevant to clears. As for it be greater than 400 yet still having 700 paladins, that has to be in a range of 1.00 to 1.74 paladins per group. As 1.75 paladins per group is 400. Going higher than starts making the number of clears that contain paladins dip below 400 such as with 1.76 which is 397 clears. Like if fflogs show 8 warriors cleared FT, are they being counted as 8 warriors for 8 clears, 8 warriors for 1 clear, or 8 unique warriors in a variable number of clears from 2 to 7?

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Originally Posted by Jeycht

There is actually more than 9000 different chara who have clear the last boss of FT. Way more than what ff14collect is saying. (20x)

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If you divide 9000 by 48, it's 187.5, far below the 400 SE said. If you divide it by 24 it's 375, still below 400.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

If you divide 9000 by 48, it's 187.5, far below the 400 SE said. If you divide it by 24 it's 375, still below 400.

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As I said "more than". Even the site there doesn't have all data, it's still way more than ffcollect

Yea, I was going to say, where is this 9000 coming from? Can you share the source?

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Originally Posted by ChrysOCE

Yea, I was going to say, where is this 9000 coming from? Can you share the source?

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I gonna let you look for it. It's a certain site about log. (so clear that people parsed that's why there is more likely not every clear but still a lot more than the other site)

I see we've reached the point in the discussion where hardcore raiders start trawling around for data to claim "the content is fine, actually," despite the fact the rest of the player base can see it's shit.

No. I'm simply saying that the data from another site isn't correct, even "my" source isn't. But it's closer to the real number. (I'm far from an hardcore raider btw. I haven't clear FT yet)