The cat's (or femhroth in this case) outta the bag

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Thats not true in the slightest.....the concept art was posted in promotion to HW. Or is that somehow not context?....
You realize you just agreed with the POINT, that concept art doesn't always match the end product. They look at different ideas and chose one in the end, which is Exactly what happened with the Au-Ra. Again...thats the POINT.
Those 2 pictures you just posted are Finalized images; Character Art. Not concept art that is subject to change. The main thing being that they have finalized 3D Rendered Models

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Here is the context.
That Au Ra art is a part of the process of making a new race. You make different things, get "yes/ No/ I like that, keep that thing" and so on to come to the final look.

The art in the op is not that. The OP art is "Finalized image; Character Art. Not concept art that is subject to change" because THAT is the only trail art they put in these books, just like the images I posted.

That's not concept art of them trying to "figure out" what they want Female Hrothgar to look like, it's finalized art of what they want a character to look like. Not sure how you don't understand that other than willful ignorance, unless you think that they suddenly bucked the trend that's been going on throughout all these books and are now showing the process of making trail bosses. We'll find out in a few days when I get the book, but I'd be willing to bet that this is the only "Queen Gunhildra" in this book.

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And...outside of Fanart I dont think Viera were ever illustrated Beastly. Gonna need to see a picture. They've always had weird feet, but I dont recall a concept art that ever tried to Deviate from their designs from Tactics & XII.

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boom it's all a part of the process.

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Originally Posted by reivaxe

The game exploded more so in recent popularity via WoW people leaving WoW and trying out FF14 ... because WoW and its devs have been driving them away. Growth in numbers comes from somewhere, and though not every new player is from another MMO, it's completely common sense to appeal to players who already like MMOs.

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word of mouth is what got these people to play the game as they fled from WoW. Not a Beast Race

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Glad we can mostly agree on something.

Honestly, the only thing that would make sense for female Hrothgar is to make them as beastly as the males (feline face, fur-texture for skin, fang options, etc like the males). I'd be extremely disappointed in SE if they decide to just go the "sexy dimorphism" route and not make the race make sense.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Glad we can mostly agree on something.

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Nah, cause I never EVER said that people by large came over because of Hrothgar so don't put words in my mouth. Hrothgar make the game MORE appealing to Western people who like beast races in these games (yes, some people think this game is too weeby for them). That is all. Someone could love Charr or worgen or tauren or Orcs or w/e and now feel like there's something in FF14 they like. The question of if people who like "female Beast people" are something SE wants to go for is up to them to answer, but statically they have always been far less liked than their male counterparts, so I understand if they don't.

Also, I'd argue Blizzard is by large the reason for the recent flood of converts in the past few months. FF14 is the only other BIG MMO for these types to go to.

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Here is the context.
That Au Ra art is a part of the process of making a new race. .

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.......no duh. -_-;

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The art in the op is not that. The OP art is "Finalized image; Character Art. Not concept art that is subject to change" because THAT is the only trail art they put in these books, just like the images I posted
That's not concept art of them trying to "figure out" what they want Female Hrothgar to look like, it's finalized art of what they want a character to look like. Not sure how you don't understand that other than willful ignorance, unless you think that they suddenly bucked the trend that's been going on throughout all these books and are now showing the process of making trail bosses.

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So your logic is that because its the only image we've seen, its undisputedly the final design being put into the game. Even though they are still in planning stages.
If this were true, they'd actually have something to show us other 1 picture that they hid in an artbook that not everybody would have access to. Plus, you know they would have more then 1 image of the Hrothgar, not just that 1 image and then its done.
I never argued anything about Trial Bosses. I am talking about the fact that there were many different looks of concept for the Au-Ra before the final chosen design. The same COULD be done to female Hrothgar. If they are already finalized, why have we gotten No conversation from the Devs other then; "they are coming?" why do we possibly have to wait another 2 years if they already have it figured out?
And what ignorance do you speak of? Other then the proven statement that; Until we actually see them, we wont know exactly what they will look like.


Also....is the Beastly Viera your talking about the weird lil bunny on the Far Right? You know that is a comical joke image.
When you design, its good to have fun like that. Thats all that is...that wasnt going to be serious and possibly the design.

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Also, I'd argue Blizzard is by large the reason for the recent flood of converts in the past few months. FF14 is the only other BIG MMO for these types to go to.

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Yes...it is.
People being sick of WoW is why the game became even more popular. And with the Legal issues now there is a Mass Exodus, and people like Asmongold have inspired an even bigger flood to come into FFXIV.
A Beast Race wasnt a selling point though. Beast Races are not gonna attract more people.

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Nah, cause I never EVER said that people by large came over because of Hrothgar so don't put words in my mouth. Hrothgar make the game MORE appealing to Western people who like beast races in these games (yes, some people think this game is too weeby for them). That is all. Someone could love Charr or worgen or tauren or Orcs or w/e and now feel like there's something in FF14 they like. The question of if people who like "female Beast people" are something SE wants to go for is up to them to answer, but statically they have always been far less liked than their male counterparts, so I understand if they don't.

Also, I'd argue Blizzard is by large the reason for the recent flood of converts in the past few months. FF14 is the only other BIG MMO for these types to go to.

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But furries have as much of a bad reputation, if not worse, than weebs as far as western gamers are concerned, so if they actually wanted to attract western players they could've gone for a more stereotypical race like an orc or an actual dwarf. If anything, under that pretense, it's ESO/GW2 players who they would've tried catering to if we take into account both of those games have actual anthropomorphic cat races whereas WoW, despite having more furry races to chose from, has none.

Either way, as it's been pointed out before, if it was about the money, it would've been far more profitable to just make both Viera genders and be done with it, than cater to a niche audience, half ass it, and then [potentially] back down on the reason they were even added in the first place. The whole thing is just a mess no matter where you look at it.

The fact that the character was entirely changed after being depicted in this "character art not concept art" inherently proves that the character art is not final.

Also, it's possible that the art was final in terms of illustrating the machine rather than the pilot – though I disagree on that being final too, as the illustration with the Hrothgar queen looks like she is much more inside the machine than the final model being more of a throne.

(Also also, we fight bosses in "trials" not "trails".)

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So your logic is that because its the only image we've seen, its undisputedly the final design being put into the game.

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No, my logic is that this is finalized art in the art book for the Queen we fight ... because she's a trail boss and literally every trail boss in the game gets finalized art in the art book. I can legit walk 10ft to the book I have and find finalized art of every trail boss in the patches that book covers, and it's pretty much always "1 picture and maybe a front/ back" that represents what we got in game.

Tis why I said you gotta think they're bucking the trend for the first time if you think this isn't finalized art of the queen. If you want to try to drag up the question of how far they would have developed the concept of Hrothgal's appearance, that's all speculative, as none of us work for SE. I stand by my logic born over a year ago that they wouldn't bother shipping the mural (Which looks just like this art) or even designing a Hrothgal NPC if they didn't know what they planned for them to look like. You can believe w/e you want about that.
But by all accounts, this art is what they intended this character to look like. And this art looks just like the faces we got in the mural that's in the game.

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But furries have as much of a bad reputation, if not worse, than weebs as far as western gamers are concerned.

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I have no clue what you're getting at.
WoW, GW2, ESO, EQ2 and so on are Western MMOs that have beast races. That's something this game didn't have and something some people who like those games like playing. Simple as that. You can easily not be into Eastern games and still play a game with beast people in them ... like, wtf?
Hell, I had to be dragged away from GW2 to try this game in ARR by my friends because I never played a FF game and thought it would some stupid weeb game where everyone's running around pretending to be Japanese in the most cringe manner. (I love anime and manga, don't like engaging in those circles) I've seen a number of WoW players talk about how they didn't try FF14 for a long time because they thought it was weeby bs.

You people are trying awfully hard to frame Hrothgar as some charitable gesture to the gods of "diversity" that doesn't in any way make the game more appealing to some people who like beast races in MMOs. I have seen people who used to play WoW talk about how they love their Hrothgar because they remind them of Mag'har Orcs and Tauren, yet somehow the idea that Hrothgar could be appealing to someone who plays a monster Cow Dude or a Charr is too much, huh?

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The fact that the character was entirely changed after being depicted in this "character art not concept art" inherently proves that the character art is not final.

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Actually, no. It's a sign that something changed far into development, resulting in the character being given a generic Femroe face 2 head. Because if there IS art of this character with a Femroe head, they would have used that art.
What could have happened? IDK, maybe covid struggles made them reassess their priorities, and they didn't have time to make a custom head for side content boss/ npc. We already know they cut things because of covid, so makes sense to me and explains why this is the first time we see finalized art that's not representative of what we got in game.

Yeah I'm sure they changed the entire story arc because covid /s

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Yeah I'm sure they changed the entire story arc because covid /s

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You do realize that the story line and character arcs was never dependent on the Femroes being Femroes, right? Turn them Hrothgal and literally nothing changes. Anyone with a passing interest in the story could tell that the only reason the Femroe were there was because they didn't make Hrothgals. Or they could have stayed Femroe and the primal hosting Femroe Ex-shrine-maiden could just take on the appearance of a female Hrothgar instead of being a Femroe with a unique body and cat eyes.

After reading the previous posts, my thinking at this point is the body we've seen used for the queen is the modified one built for female hrothgar (minus the tail, which is usually a separate model the player can customize). Since head models aren't attached to body models, it stands to reason they just swapped in the closest fit which was a femroe head. If that is the case, then as long as they have decent hair/face options I'm sold on making and boosting an alt of one.

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No, my logic is that this is finalized art in the art book for the Queen we fight ... because she's a trail boss and literally every trail boss in the game gets finalized art in the art book. I can legit walk 10ft to the book I have and find finalized art of every trail boss in the patches that book covers, and it's pretty much always "1 picture and maybe a front/ back" that represents what we got in game.

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........You remember that we fight a FemRoe as the Queen in the game right?
And not a Female Hrothgar, right? So your logic here...makes...NO Sense.
If that was the Final Design that we fight...why was it not in the game?
And it wasn't a Trial Boss...it was the Final Raid boss of DR.
I really question if you know what you are talking about sometimes...

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I stand by my logic born over a year ago that they wouldn't bother shipping the mural (Which looks just like this art) or even designing a Hrothgal NPC if they didn't know what they planned for them to look like. You can believe w/e you want about that.
But by all accounts, this art is what they intended this character to look like. And this art looks just like the faces we got in the mural that's in the game.

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....There is no Hrothgal NPC in the game.....what are you even talking about?
This isn't even a "Belief" this is factually false nonsense at this point, and Id love to know where you are getting it from.
If this is exactly what they intended...why is it not in the game already, or why do they have nothing to show us, not even a tiny mild conversation so the people who care would know? They bothered with the Males, why wouldn't they with the Females?
If they had everything figured out already 2 years ago with a stylized Mural...why are they still in Development?

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You do realize that the story line and character arcs was never dependent on the Femroes being Femroes, right? Turn them Hrothgal and literally nothing changes. Anyone with a passing interest in the story could tell that the only reason the Femroe were there was because they didn't make Hrothgals. Or they could have stayed Femroe and the primal hosting Femroe Ex-shrine-maiden could just take on the appearance of a female Hrothgar instead of being a Femroe with a unique body and cat eyes.

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Sure, whatever lmfao

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

After reading the previous posts, my thinking at this point is the body we've seen used for the queen is the modified one built for female hrothgar (minus the tail, which is usually a separate model the player can customize). Since head models aren't attached to body models, it stands to reason they just swapped in the closest fit which was a femroe head.

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I'm seen this sentiment around but I just don't follow the hrothgal thread people are pulling from it. FF14 has adjusted NPCs to make them unique or more appealing before. Like Gosetsu and Moenbryda as non-Eorzean roegadyns or Aymeric's bigger head and more proportioned neck. They've also swapped parts for convenience, like using the elezen model for garlean NPCs.

I don't understand where this idea comes from? Why is the thought that they would use an asset of specifically an unfinished race for this character, when swapping or adjusting parts is just something they've done in general?

It just feels like a weird reach when this can just as easily be answered as it being a situation of "well, we've got a revealing outfit for the queen here, let's give her a more conventionally attractive body".


Also for future reference, since I saw it mentioned a bit ago, here's the quote from Yoshida regarding the initial Viera / Hrothgar split:

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Providing a More Beastly Variety for FFXIV Character Creation and World Building

After seeing the positive reception of the Lupin characters we introduced in Stormblood, we concluded that, for the long-term health of FFXIV, it was important to implement a greater variety of character types beyond the traditionally beautiful in a future expansion. In truth, we had considered adding more beastly characters long before, and since this was possibly our last chance to do so, we decided that we should—much like we did with the Viera—in the interests of expanding the lore and the choices available to players.

Character creation is about providing players with options, and while there’s no telling how many people will utilize these options, we also believe that there is value simply in having them exist—in empowering people to fill the world with greater variety.

Although these second and third points are in conflict, we nevertheless felt that it was in the best interests of our players to try and satisfy both demands. We understood that some players would be upset if they were unable to use their preferred gender, but even so, after much internal discussion, we decided this approach was the best way to improve the overall game experience.

We could have decided to implement only male and female Viera, or only male and female Hrothgar. However, we instead went with an approach intended to expand the possibilities in multiple ways.

As you play through Shadowbringers, you’ll learn that both male Viera and female Hrothgar exist. While you won’t meet any in person, if we developers can find a way to address the various problems which are preventing us from implementing them, then perhaps someday you’ll be able to see them for yourself. I want to be clear that this does not mean it will eventually happen, and that I cannot make any promises at this time. I hope you will understand and bear with us.

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- Letter from the Producer, LXII (05/09/2019)

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Letter from the Producer, LXII (05/09/2019)

Providing a More Beastly Variety for FFXIV Character Creation and World Building

After seeing the positive reception of the Lupin characters we introduced in Stormblood, we concluded that, for the long-term health of FFXIV, it was important to implement a greater variety of character types beyond the traditionally beautiful in a future expansion. In truth, we had considered adding more beastly characters long before, and since this was possibly our last chance to do so, we decided that we should—much like we did with the Viera—in the interests of expanding the lore and the choices available to players.

Character creation is about providing players with options, and while there’s no telling how many people will utilize these options, we also believe that there is value simply in having them exist—in empowering people to fill the world with greater variety.

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I don't understand where this idea comes from? Why is the thought that they would use an asset of specifically an unfinished race for this character, when swapping or adjusting parts is just something they've done in general?
- Letter from the Producer, LXII (05/09/2019)

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Because when they made the queen's body they were working on male viera at the time without telling anybody, and they had plans to release both genders if possible at the same time but did not finish female hrothgar in time. They made the body but didn't finish the head.

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You people are trying awfully hard to frame Hrothgar as some charitable gesture to the gods of "diversity" that doesn't in any way make the game more appealing to some people who like beast races in MMOs. I have seen people who used to play WoW talk about how they love their Hrothgar because they remind them of Mag'har Orcs and Tauren, yet somehow the idea that Hrothgar could be appealing to someone who plays a monster Cow Dude or a Charr is too much, huh?

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Diversity > sexy/bizarre sexual dimorphism imo. Also if people love their Hrothgar because it reminds them of Orcs and Tauren, then people will love female Hrothgar looking as bestial as the males (face, fur-texture, fangs, etc) because it'll remind them of their Khajiit and Charr.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Because when they made the queen's body they were working on male viera at the time without telling anybody, and they had plans to release both genders if possible at the same time but did not finish female hrothgar in time. They made the body but didn't finish the head.

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We don't know this for certain though? We have no idea where in production female hrothgar are at currently. By all accounts, it sounds like they worked on them one at a time:

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They spent over half a year using what free time they had in between their normal work on the patches to consider ways to add another playable race. From this they concluded that we could probably squeeze in just one more at this time. Of course, by adding male Viera now, we anticipated people may be vocal about the absence of female Hrothgar and want to know what the situation was. Rather than waiting until (hypothetically) 7.0 to add two playable races at the same time, we realized we could actually ease the impact on our resources if we implemented these one at a time. Ultimately, I decided we should then move forward with implementing one playable race at a time, and I will make sure to explain that to our players: that’s what we did for this upcoming expansion.

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- Playstation Blog interview with Naoki Yoshida

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Diversity > sexy/bizarre sexual dimorphism imo. Also if people love their Hrothgar because it reminds them of Orcs and Tauren, then people will love female Hrothgar looking as bestial as the males (face, fur-texture, fangs, etc) because it'll remind them of their Khajiit and Charr.

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I'm all for the female Hrothgar looking like female Khajiit! ..Not so much female Charr, primarily because of the hunch. I really don't like the hunch for bestial races, it makes certain gear look awful. I also would be all for specific headgear or more braided racial styles for female hrothgar, though a bald head option would really work well too c:

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I'm all for the female Hrothgar looking like female Khajiit! ..Not so much female Charr, primarily because of the hunch. I really don't like the hunch for bestial races, it makes certain gear look awful. I also would be all for specific headgear or more braided racial styles for female hrothgar, though a bald head option would really work well too c:

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A Bald Option would be really neat. So would more Braids
I really hope to make a Badass Amazon Beastlady :3

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

A Bald Option would be really neat. So would more Braids
I really hope to make a Badass Amazon Beastlady :3

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Omg yes! I would also be really happy with a mostly bald option with a long braid from the back of the head, it would look pretty cool with headdresses and stuff like that. Anything to make it more amazon, or fierce. Gold ornaments or added feathers would look cool as well like they did with some of the male Viera hairstyles in the benchmark. I love fierce looking female characters and I always stop in game to admire femroes when I see them looking really cool!

If they're limited like the males are with their customization (hope not but am expecting), I'd expect them to be mostly "bald" (no mane) with different options for headdresses.
'Cause lions.

Only one face of Hrothgar really fits the "lion" design (for now. If hair limitation is removed, then it can be anyone). Every other face is different. There's the one I use, there's a coeurl-like face and of course, the Ronso face (the only one that gets the horn).

I'm guessing the female hrothgar will get the same variations of faces that the males do; a lion, the coerul, tiger, and the Ronso face but made to be more feminine and have more "gentle" features. I just hope that they will get rid of the hair-face limitations and add more variation of racial hairstyles for both genders to mix-match faces and hairstyles and add scar options too since that'll be really cool. Anything to add to a more rugged/fierce appearance and not have the stupid fantasia thing whenever someone wants to switch to a different hairstyle.

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Only one face of Hrothgar really fits the "lion" design (for now. If hair limitation is removed, then it can be anyone). Every other face is different. There's the one I use, there's a coeurl-like face and of course, the Ronso face (the only one that gets the horn).

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I was actually very happy and Impressed with the face diversity, and the creative Courel face. But, I was really upset that only the 4th; Khimari-like face was the ONLY one that could get the Unicorn horn. In retrospect....I guess it doesnt matter cause these arnt full-blown Ronso, and Im not using the Horn. But Im still a lil upset and disappointed that one 1 face option gets the ability to have the horn.

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Omg yes! I would also be really happy with a mostly bald option with a long braid from the back of the head, it would look pretty cool with headdresses and stuff like that. Anything to make it more amazon, or fierce. Gold ornaments or added feathers would look cool as well like they did with some of the male Viera hairstyles in the benchmark. I love fierce looking female characters and I always stop in game to admire femroes when I see them looking really cool!

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YES, I am abit jealous and love the braids on the Male Veria. Id love something like that for the Hrothgar; Males AND Females.

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If they're limited like the males are with their customization (hope not but am expecting), I'd expect them to be mostly "bald" (no mane) with different options for headdresses.
'Cause lions.

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Well they will be by design. But yeah we can only hope they can find a way to alleviate the limits & restrictions.
Since it is abit of a High Fantasy game, I expect hair options, b ut Im just worried about the designs and variety....including a Bald Option.

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........You remember that we fight a FemRoe as the Queen in the game right?

If this is exactly what they intended...why is it not in the game already

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You should prob stop talking to me if you have nothing to say other than trying to dig up something to whine about.
I'm talking about art in a book that features finalized art for every Dng&Raid boss, every enemy NPC, every important NPC and even field/ trash mobs. If this is what's in the book for this character, it's what they intended said character to look like.

Why this character isn't a Hrothgal NPC when a worldwide pandemic screwed up production of this MMO, causing them to cut corners/ cut tons of content/ combine seasonal events to save time and prema-push back the timetable for this game? The world may never know ... but this is what this character was intended to look like as that's what they do for NPCs in these books, which is why we're even talking about it. Book's been shipped, so it wont be long til I see if there's more art to this queen.

But I've been accepting what the devs give us at every turn, so this does nothing but make things even clearer to me.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Diversity > sexy/bizarre sexual dimorphism imo. Also if people love their Hrothgar because it reminds them of Orcs and Tauren, then people will love female Hrothgar looking as bestial as the males (face, fur-texture, fangs, etc) because it'll remind them of their Khajiit and Charr.

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I don't personally care what your opinion is so IDK why you're telling me, I'm not saying they should or shouldn't look like anything.
I've literally only been saying, "They made Hrothgar to make the game more appealing/ welcoming to people who like Beast dudes. It's up to them if they want to try that with females, but those types are universally far less played than the males, so I understand if they don't". That's a decision for them to make.

Concept art shows a blue cat humanoid and so does the mural. The pieces fit.

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You should prob stop talking to me if you have nothing to say other than trying to dig up something to whine about.
I'm talking about art in a book that features finalized art for every Dng&Raid boss, every enemy NPC, every important NPC and even field/ trash mobs. If this is what's in the book for this character, it's what they intended said character to look like.

Why this character isn't a Hrothgal NPC when a worldwide pandemic screwed up production of this MMO, causing them to cut corners/ cut tons of content/ combine seasonal events to save time and prema-push back the timetable for this game? The world may never know ... but this is what this character was intended to look like as that's what they do for NPCs in these books, which is why we're even talking about it. Book's been shipped, so it wont be long til I see if there's more art to this queen.

But I've been accepting what the devs give us at every turn, so this does nothing but make things even clearer to me.

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A fact that disproves a point = trying to dig up something to whine about
Just....lol. You literally sat there and made the claim ""that this is finalized art in the art book for the Queen we fight ... because she's a trail boss and literally every trail boss in the game gets finalized art in the art book"" <--- Your words Verbatim
It is 100% fact that we do not Fight a Female Hrothgar, & she is Not a Trial Boss. And there isn't a Female Hrothgar NPC in the game. Im not digging up stuff to whine about...I am calling out what your saying is false.

And actually...no. We can't blame Covid for no Female Hrothgar. Shadowbringers came out July 2, 2019.
This Pandemic didnt start till about March 2020
If Female Hrothgar were already 100% figured out and done...they would be here.

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I don't personally care what your opinion is so IDK why you're telling me, I'm not saying they should or shouldn't look like anything.
I've literally only been saying, "They made Hrothgar to make the game more appealing/ welcoming to people who like Beast dudes. It's up to them if they want to try that with females, but those types are universally far less played than the males, so I understand if they don't". That's a decision for them to make.

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I don't believe they said beast dudes (men, male, man, guys) specifically, though.

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After seeing the positive reception of the Lupin characters we introduced in Stormblood, we concluded that, for the long-term health of FFXIV, it was important to implement a greater variety of character types beyond the traditionally beautiful in a future expansion. In truth, we had considered adding more beastly characters long before, and since this was possibly our last chance to do so, we decided that we should—much like we did with the Viera—in the interests of expanding the lore and the choices available to players.

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Sure, this was said before they confirmed opposite genders of X race were confirmed to be coming, however I am hopeful that Yoshi-P and his team treat Hrothgar overall as the beast race and not make them the "Seton Academy" race.

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I don't believe they said beast dudes (men, male, man, guys) specifically, though.



Sure, this was said before they confirmed opposite genders of X race were confirmed to be coming, however I am hopeful that Yoshi-P and his team treat Hrothgar overall as the beast race and not make them the "Seton Academy" race.

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Personally I would not be against that, I could get behind that approach.

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I don't believe they said beast dudes (men, male, man, guys) specifically, though.

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They didn't. Of course they intended to do both genders. Just, it might have been the last time they could make a new race. And the goal was to do something new for the game, while also introducing a fan request.
Like, they were very clear about this.

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Originally Posted by Awha

Personally I would not be against that, I could get behind that approach.

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lol...the Beauty and the Beast trope.
But hey...who knows it might happen. Although...going with that picture...they would just be Miqote 2.0

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

They didn't. Of course they intended to do both genders. Just, it might have been the last time they could make a new race. And the goal was to do something new for the game, while also introducing a fan request.
Like, they were very clear about this.



lol...the Beauty and the Beast trope.
But hey...who knows it might happen. Although...going with that picture...they would just be Miqote 2.0

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Technically miqote 3.0 since fem au ra exists

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Originally Posted by HollowedDoll

Technically miqote 3.0 since fem au ra exists

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..........lmao now there's a thought

Can only hope they'll keep up the "rejected for looking like a Miqo'te" energy for the women.

https://i.imgur.com/AYgEPOUl.png

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Originally Posted by Qurho

Can only hope they'll keep up the "rejected for looking like a Miqo'te" energy for the women.

https://i.imgur.com/AYgEPOUl.png

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Fingers Crossed my Man

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

They didn't. Of course they intended to do both genders. Just, it might have been the last time they could make a new race. And the goal was to do something new for the game, while also introducing a fan request.
Like, they were very clear about this.
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lol...the Beauty and the Beast trope.
But hey...who knows it might happen. Although...going with that picture...they would just be Miqote 2.0

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I would not mind an updated Miqote with a Highlander body type, even if it was just a female Hrothgar.