No real endgame raiding content in 2.1

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So yeah u can level xyz classes and jobs and professions but in the end u still got those poor endgame dungeons for the next months to come. 2.1 isn´t going to happen before nov/dez and has nealy 0 progression dungeons, only a few "hardmodes" for primal fights and an 24man Duty Finder pug dungeon.

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Solution? Don't rush with 8 classes it should take 6 months to 1 year to get all of them to max. If you bum rush it, of course your going to be met with a dead end, and that's not entirely SE fault, it's the rushers that get to 50 in a week then complain there's nothing. when it's a MMO launch, not 2 or 3 patches in where end-game is usually added.

Pace yourself. You can have fun and level at a steady pace. ( do what you want I personally don't care so much), it's just advice to preserve a wonderful game. FFXI went through it, WoW went through it, It's a launch give it time to grow.

MMO launch= Seed

1-3 Years= Blooming ( if people support it) give it water (money) and give it sun (Love)

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Originally Posted by Churchill

Game is 3 years old, next.

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Not exactly, it is, but at the same time it isn't. FFXIV ARR is practically a new game, FFXIV is more of a prequel than anything

Game is 3 years old, next.

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Originally Posted by nimrod

Well i hope ppl can stop bitching at each other here in the thread.
I know we all got our opinions, if the content is enough for some its 100% ok. But if the game is so "easy" u tear through the content as an FC group and u see no real "new" endgame raid content for the next 7month.. its just sad. I know we can just re-sub and all that.. but rly why do companies releases games with 0 effort on endgame. They haven´t even gotten pvp in for release what would still give them more time for more endcontent or PvP tiers or whatever later on - thats another point which is just "bad" gamedesign.

Just a few primal fights which u do 1time for the relic quest, 1 real instance for "tomestones" aka Amdapors Keep and a small 4Boss Dungeon aka Bahamut are just not that much. And for ppl like me which love "raiding" with a group its even less content.

So yeah u can level xyz classes and jobs and professions but in the end u still got those poor endgame dungeons for the next months to come. 2.1 isn´t going to happen before nov/dez and has nealy 0 progression dungeons, only a few "hardmodes" for primal fights and an 24man Duty Finder pug dungeon.

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You asked a very relevant question, only I don't think you realize that it really is a question and actually the one you SHOULD be asking. The question you SHOULD be asking is this: are companies producing, or even willing to produce, content that satisfies your need for "challenging" and "lasting" content.

By the way, the answer is a resounding NO!

Companies don't have the resources to provide endless, challenging, satisfying (to you) content. At least, not at the price you're willing to pay. People on the side of the argument in this thread supporting your OP assertions keep bringing up SWTOR. The problem there wasn't just no endgame content. It was primarily the fact that in addition to there being no worthwhile endgame content there was also no satisfying alternative content. That's just not the case in XIV. This game has a much healthier amount of content in general, and for those who don't locust through content there's even plenty of endgame to play.

The problem is, folks who have 40+ hours to play weekly simply will never have enough content, and games will never be challenging enough for them to play. If you've ever watched the movie "Inception" and really thought about the problem with drawing mazes in 1:00 that take more than 1:00 to complete, then you might start to understand why this is a problem.

(Hint: with a collective intelligence machine, i.e. MMO players, there's no conceivable way that a person, or even a limited team of people, can draw a maze in 1:00 that takes longer than 1:00 to solve. It just can't happen)

You people just need to start having more realistic expectations, and that will largely start as you get more realistic engagement with life in general. If you're spending 40+ hours on a game each week, frankly your life is so wildly out of balance that you have clearly ceased to be a functioning member of society. Go, do something productive in real life. Now that game developers are focusing on games that appeal to those of us who have that balance, you'll find that everything works out better in the end.

Weren't they going to add two more Primal fights to the mix to 2.1 also?

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Originally Posted by Idrael

Weren't they going to add two more Primal fights to the mix to 2.1 also?

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Yep, Good King Mog and 1 of the three he mentioned ( Shiva/Leviathan/Ramuh)

Its funny the OP is even bitching about end game... he is not even on end game content yet.

Here is a link to his character http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1669062/

Considering no one has cleared BL yet I don’t think we have much to worry about. 3 extreme fights is going to take weeks to clear.

The casual FCs are not close to BL at the moment anyway. By the time they are ready to start BL CT will be out. Perfect timing imo

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Originally Posted by Orsnoire

You asked a very relevant question, only I don't think you realize that it really is a question and actually the one you SHOULD be asking. The question you SHOULD be asking is this: are companies producing, or even willing to produce, content that satisfies your need for "challenging" and "lasting" content.

You people just need to start having more realistic expectations, and that will largely start as you get more realistic engagement with life in general. If you're spending 40+ hours on a game each week, frankly your life is so wildly out of balance that you have clearly ceased to be a functioning member of society. Go, do something productive in real life. Now that game developers are focusing on games that appeal to those of us who have that balance, you'll find that everything works out better in the end.

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Well your´re right on that. Sure if u got a big mama, kids or what not, content will lastu forever. Because u take 1year to get to 50. But i highly doubt that the lets call him "father" in that scenario will even play that game that long, he will hop to the next game release. What is a money maker? Content u cant reach in a whimp of time, stretch the leveling f.e. if not give player more to do on endgame. I know plenty of ppl which dont have an fc for coils so they just que for AK and run in circles all day. Sure thats only a small portion and many many will still be leveling character after character for month.. but thats not the point here. The majority players level 1 character and 1-2 professions and start with endgame.. and as u already see on the forums... its for many ppl just not that much endgame available right now in regards to "raiding" and it won´t come till patch 2.2 mid next year.

And by all meanings. How long someone takes to play a game should everyone decides for themself. If some1 uses his holdidays for game releases its fine for me, if your a student and got your semesterbreak sure u got more free time. If you are just rich and enjoy games again fine with me. So don´t try to badmouth ppl which invest more time in their hobby as u do on your life. Some guys might go hunting and spend 10.000bucks on equipment and lots of free time on weekends, some other just love video games and enjoy them at the evening with friends.

Definition of endgame would be: What can i do on max level. So u see plenty - i say wrong. As stated prev. u got only few things to do in regards to raiding. (subject to change in future).

Maybe we all expected more of a game which got released for the 2nd time.

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Originally Posted by Edu

Its funny the OP is even bitching about end game... he is not even on end game content yet.

Here is a link to his character http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1669062/

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Thats my spiritbond gear u see the rings right? We r atm on the last phase at turn4 - can link u my twitch channel if u want proof.

There is a difference between piece and peace, nimrod.

Nimrod, the amusing thing, and the one you seem unwilling to approach and accept, is that the long term player IS the father that you hate so much. The stable person with a stable life who plays for diversion and not to "be the best" (whatever that even means in the context of a virtual world). Those are the people who support games long term. Not the others who blow through content. The casual players are the ones who subscribe through the "lulls" between endgame content, not the locusts.

You're 100% wrong in asserting that it's the casual who move to new games quickly. Game companies know this. It's the locusts who rush content and then unsub. They're the ones who are the game hoppers.

The game companies know this, and so do you guys. The fact of the matter is, you just are not honest enough with yourself to admit that what you really want is a way to convince all your buddies in your FC to stay in the game once the content is clear.

Orsnoir please stop making so much sense in a whining thread!