You complain about FFXIV grass? Skyrim has better! :(

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Originally Posted by Phe

let's compare with other successful MMO's.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ekNjutfkAzg/0.jpg

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That is what FFXIV 1.0's grass looks like lol .

for fun (not photoshopped - in game)
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...-05_203620.png
http://youtu.be/XDZA1Js1zqs?hd=1&t=56s
http://youtu.be/PF5RCyJv6Ok

(Minecraft graphic style is pixels, FFXIV is much more similar to skyrim then minecraft lol. Though I'm glad they smoothed their flora in 2.0 (both in color and in shape)).

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Originally Posted by Shougun

The whole screenshot looked great, albeit a shit ton of grass was in the screen and it looked awesome as well lol.

Also, I care how my environments look - dont want to delay the game but I would like to see the quicker modifications taken care of in a graphic update. The extreme patch or something lol w/ relase of dx updates, could try and see if Microsoft would pay for some of the dev. if SE made a DX9 vs DX11 video.. Microsoft loves crazy changes .. lol

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Those screenshots we're of Skyrim, which only uses DX9 on Windows. Not DX11. And suppose SE did include an "extreme patch" and you got your fancy looking grass. Will you start saying how the ugly the rocks are; how pale the dirt is, how flat the water looks? Will it EVER be good enough? Of course not. Which is why adding "grass" to an already completed game is not going to happen.

It's content that keeps players interested in a game. Not dumb mindless eye-candy.

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Originally Posted by Laraul

Those screenshots we're of Skyrim, which only uses DX9 on Windows. Not DX11. And suppose SE did include an "extreme patch" and you got your fancy looking grass. Will you start saying how the ugly the rocks are; how pale the dirt is, how flat the water looks? Will it EVER be good enough? Of course not. Which is why adding "grass" to an already completed game is not going to happen.

It's content that keeps players interested in a game. Not dumb mindless eye-candy.

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I never said that skyrim uses DX10 or 11. I didnt even say that DX will make it look better.

I hope those DX talks arent directed at me -I only said that when they release their graphic milestone (DX10/11) it would be great to have other extreme tweaks as well.

The water is flat lol. But I can see your attempts to try and make it look like "never satisfied is bad". That is a failed stance however. If you become complacent with what you have you will never strive for more - why do you think we get better graphics every year? That just graphics. The concept applies to all things (not just video games).

All that philosophy being said I think Skyrim with the --player-- made HD textures and a few other mods put together makes Skyrim freaking amazingly sexy and playable (minus the hilarious CTD every hour or so with or without mods.. lol).


Also I'm annoyed at the "It's content that keeps players interested in a game. Not dumb mindless eye-candy." Certaintly the game wont be fun if there is no game - its beyond obvious. However games that have or attempt to have good graphics do so for a reason as well - its not one or the other, as a consumer I have the right to ask for both (how far you expect your return is a different story).

If you read what I was saying I said "when possible" - I understand FFXIV is under unique tense as they are under the "crunch" a second time over and dont have time to blow on sexy 3d water - when they do have time its on my list of wants.

don't get it why so obsessed with just mere grasses... ;D

I finished Skyrim with almost all campaign, except evil ones like Assassins or that taking sides war. Finished this game and then picked up FFXIV, and I immediatedly fall in love with it. Always believed that FF series has it's charms like previous ones.

True, Skyrim is so gorgeous even without mods, and I do feel enjoys the comfortable. But I felt like a loner playing that, staring into distance. But with FF14, I feel more alive.

Besides... I don't even look into much details because grass is one of elements that makes the world enjoyable, but not necessarily means I have to peer into each details. ;D