how to make 10mil+ gil a day (and its effect on 2.0?)

Wouldn't that be 90% less?

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Originally Posted by Starlord

What if SE made Servers for just "New Players" How would the economy work then for them? ( i'll be one of those people who re-rolls)

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If they use separate economic policies for new servers compared to old it will be fine
but they dont have an economist

so imagine applying economic policy in nigeria during hyperinflation to the US... Protip: nothing good will come.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

I doubt it'll work like that. in some areas sure. but i'd be fairly certain that you'd never see shards being sold for 10 gil. or some double melded relic weapons go for just 1 million. repairs may drop to 50 gil not 500g but i really don't see it going at all that well.

i'm not rich but lets say i have 30 million today. with that 30 million i could buy an a sarnga / mailbreaker double melded.
if in 2.0 they cut my money by 90% so i have 3 million do you really think i'll go to the ah /merchantile house and buy one of those sarngas / mailbreakers for 3 million.

i have my doubts. and i think that's partly why people are apparantly investing in gear/materia so much i get the feeling it's a case of my 100k will only be 10k in 2.0 but my 100k materia will still be 100k...... or at least thats the belief

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At first people will try to sell for close to what they were listing before. So that relic double meld will still probably be listed in the 20 mil range. 1 or 2 may sell, but overall, prices will slowly drop and rebalance.

Good things to invest your money in now would be any mats that are always in high demand, materia and decent double melds. You could probably sell them for higher then their 1/10th conversion at the start. Think about all hq mats... Not everyone is going to know where to mine/gather/fish/killxmob right of the start, so all those hq mats will be in biggest demand at the start if there are any new recipes.

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Originally Posted by Quesse

That just isn't true!!!

People NPC stuff all the time! What is the difference between me farming walnut logs, making masks and NPCing them and farming crystals, buying dawn drops and NPCing them???

Where do you think all the gil came from originally? When the game started there was no gil. It all had to be introduced into the economy via NPCing/leves/quests, etc. And it is STILL being introduced and always will be. Hence gil sinks and blowing up materia melds.

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The difference is that an individual cannot generate ten million gil in sixteen hours NPCing masks or crystals. Not even close. Not remotely close. This is an aberration and a very serious one.

Also, I ask in earnest; what gil sinks actually exist in XIV? NPC Repairs, which virtually no one uses, aside from being in desperate need if you're wiping continually at Garuda, and Dragonhead's NPC repair price is not a deterrent to your immediate desire for convenience. What else deletes gil in XIV's current structure? I can think of nothing.

Additionally, the destruction of equipment and materia takes said equipment and materia out of the economy, but does nothing to remove the gil. The gil has merely traded hands - it is neither created, nor destroyed, merely transferred from one individual to another.

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This is actually true. Get your botanist to 50 and go mine up half a stack of resin +1s (its not that hard to do), buy some leather and sinew +1 for about 50k total and sit down and belt out militia longboots +1. Put them up on the AH for 110k and you make a good 2.5 mil profit.

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While this may be true, it is unrelated to the problem of the creation of vast quantities of new currency in a very short period of time. This would be what is known as hyperinflation. o.O

Who the hell actually has time and patience to turn in 10mil worth of crystals a DAY!??? I bought about 10 mil worth (for about 10 mil; 'cause I'm after the achievement), and I've been spending ALL my game time buying and selling dawn drops, and I've been at it for like 3 days straight now, and I'm only up to 6mil again. This is HARDLY anything to worry about.

Not to mention that in 2.0 they'll be reducing all our gil by 90%. So your 10mil will only be 1mil come ARR.

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

Wouldn't that be 90% less?

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You are right. I fixed it

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Look, Azu, I would love to be doing something besides making gil.... but there's nothing else for me to do.

I've done everything but beat Van Darnus hard... and I just don't have anything else to do but flood the economy with cheap coin.

Soz.

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Truth.
What else is there to do when you have everything done and 2 months to go?
It's not like I can fap to dinosaurs 24.7.

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

Also, I ask in earnest; what gil sinks actually exist in XIV? NPC Repairs, which virtually no one uses, aside from being in desperate need if you're wiping continually at Garuda, and Dragonhead's NPC repair price is not a deterrent to your immediate desire for convenience. What else deletes gil in XIV's current structure? I can think of nothing.

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Housing. You need to buy a plot of land first. The bigger the more expensive.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Housing. You need to buy a plot of land first. The bigger the more expensive.

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I concede this point, with the caveat that it will occur after the decimation of the current Gil. The damage will already have been wrought upon current player reserves and the colossal oversight of Atomos Free Gil Giveaway Extravaganza will already have wreaked havoc upon the economy. *~*

Considering this Atomos thing will probably end in November, along with the world, all it's doing is giving current players yet more of an economic head start. Not only that, it's letting us finish off whatever Grand Company desires we might have. There will surely be plenty of gil sink in 2.0 to take the money back out of the economy. I'm looking forward to buying luxury land.