7.3 is insufficient (Relic,Deep Dungeon and Cosmic Exploration has to carry 4 Months)

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Originally Posted by Kandraxx

There are just conflicting standards and viewpoints, you can't please both the jp and na/eu communities at the same time. They essentially would have to create two versions of the game, where it would be the current theme park version for JP and for the west it would be a version with a lot more sandbox feel and individualism more like WoW or GW2.

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We're already at the point where the western communities think they only listen to the JP community and the JP community thinks they only listen to the western communities despite a lot of criticisms being the same. Right now it seems like they're actively trying to please no one.

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Originally Posted by Altina_Orion

No, stop making excuses for mediocrity. The base 7.3 expansion will launch with essentially nothing. It's not. Week worth of msq, it's maybe 6 hours and then an alliance raid which will take 2 at most. 8 hours worth of content to spread over two weeks followed by new cosmic to keep you busy for 2 months. Everything else will be 7.35 which, tbh I'm excited for the deep dungeon, but beast tribes are 10 minutes of content a day (if that) and the relic doesn't appear to expand on OC.

This game, despite what yoshi-p said, is meant to be a forever game. He did suggest playing other games at one point, but he likely meant to take a break if you are feeling burnt out, not to sub for one month and quit for 3 because there is no content to do.

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Honestly? There's a difference between asking for more quantatity vs quality to me. And people seem here to mix that up quite well.

Instead of crying about to less content, why not ask for better, deeper complex systems? Current content fails miserably. Look at chaotic, cosmic and even occult. SE is simply not delivering.
And you guys think asking for more content is going to fix everything? FFS, we passed 7 months of drought straight after expansion and they finally release 2 major contents, but they're BAD BORING.

I honestly don't think Beastmaster would change anything. It's going to be another "done" content after a few weeks. Simply because this team is unorganized and unstructured.
And to me, there is a huge difference between asking for more content vs. creating content that's rich and engaging.

So yeah, if you're not happy. Leave your feedback, Im all for it. But unsubbing for a bit can relieve some nerves and save you some money. Don't pretend like it's a bad advice.

As I said.
Breaks should come from burnout.

Not an intended design choice.

Say what you will about 7.2 if that simply just wasn't your fancy, so be it... It gave you points within the patch to log in for.

Beastmaster or Variant Dungeon, as examples, add a point to jump in for.

Right now, it's gonna be pretty barren. Systems and carrots on a stick aren't good content either; that's just a hamster wheel. FF14 is better because it doesn't have those. 7.2 was good. 7.3 needs one more jumping-in point.

I mean if the Relic is somehow connected to doing the newest Deep Dungeon, that could give the content enough legs to be engaging...? Anyways no doom or unsubbing from me. I think the patch will be so much better with meat.

A subscription-based service shouldn't have intentional "Unsub" Non-tent patches... that's bad service. There should always be a little something that's new to do to keep you through 3/4th of a patch.

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Originally Posted by Altina_Orion

Ok but I've done all those things and I started in 5.5, so that's kinda in you

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Wow, you started in 5.5 and you've already got kids?

I feel very bored for years now. And I heard nothing for 7.3 that could be interesting for 4 month. I am really happy that I got my Switch 2 and can play some really fun games. ^^''

I just need to manage it to let all in ff14 get lost. Not ready yet..., sadly. I feel so stupid to pay for a virtual house.

It's hard for me to say that..., but it really seems like that SE needs to loose many subs, before they stop to treat us so badly. They are really not our friends. They exploit and abuse our hearts. Our love for this game.

Again I say: CBU3 struggles when it comes to deliver content with a big shelf life, generally.

What is a big shelf life? I'll put it exactly what they have done well:

Deep Dungeons.

It's engaging content that covers all of the player spectrum:

- Casual players can enjoy the basic levels, and RERUN them for a) Job experience b) Random treasures c) Aetherpool grind
- Challenge offered for a casual solo player to build aetherpool with the basic levels, but going solo
- Harder content for Light Parties in a) Completing the whole thing b) RNG treasures only found on advanced levels
- Extreme content for solo players in soloing the whole thing not just with one but all jobs

We are getting one, and visually at least seems distinct. But something like this should've been in 7.1.5

Where are the 3 variants? Are they releasing all of them back to back, assuming we'll get 3?

Why BLU and BST updates can't be in the first half of the expansion?

The biggest slap in the face of the community in my opinion is the excuse of cost. That's not a valid reason. Beside the subs money, they have the mog station, AND they sell jewelery for 400$ when in reality it's not even worth half of that. They milk the community and then come back and tell us they don't have enough money to deliver a better experience? At this point, i'm convinced that SE doesn't care about delivering a good game anymore because no matter what, people will give them money (even for an insanely overprice earring) and thanks them for an update that should have happened 5 years ago (Viera hats). CBU3 is split between multiple projects now to the point where they can't deliver updates in a timely manner, and the money earn is clearly not invest in FFXIV anymore.

I love the game, but it's really worrying to see where it's heading and i'm tired of hearing Yoshi P apologise ever PLL. It's depressing the hear them say they have not enough money when it's one (if not the) of the biggest earning game SE have.

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Originally Posted by Ilfirin

The biggest slap in the face of the community in my opinion is the excuse of cost. That's not a valid reason. Beside the subs money, they have the mog station, AND they sell jewelery for 400$ when in reality it's not even worth half of that. They milk the community and then come back and tell us they don't have enough money to deliver a better experience? At this point, i'm convinced that SE doesn't care about delivering a good game anymore because no matter what, people will give them money (even for an insanely overprice earring) and thanks them for an update that should have happened 5 years ago (Viera hats). CBU3 is split between multiple projects now to the point where they can't deliver updates in a timely manner, and the money earn is clearly not invest in FFXIV anymore.

I love the game, but it's really worrying to see where it's heading and i'm tired of hearing Yoshi P apologise ever PLL. It's depressing the hear them say they have not enough money when it's one (if not the) of the biggest earning game SE have.

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Bruh their merch aint even that good. Remember the Omega statue? Where the face was beyond screwed up.
Or the gacha picture things?

To be fair... FF14 has quite an expansive Free to play option with the first three expansions. I don't wanna hear about what restrictions it has because, compared to other MMOs of the same pedigree, at least they have that going.

And again the Mogstation has always been there. People don't care about store items until the game isn't delivering on the in-game front.

So the problem isn't the Mogstation because that's like an industry standard fight a corporation is gonna want your money - fair game. And if that was a net negative from the start none of us would be here. (maybe some people just to complain)

The problem is that the Money needs to be worth the Horse.

Right now we got a Donkey a strong donkey.. (I mean the content we do get is pretty good I think) But that Donkey isn't getting me as far as Horse and that's what I'm paying for.

As I said before irregardless of any jaded feelings the major critique is that patches need at least three core jumping in points to be fun. They can't keep making patches of Non-tent that are done in the week and then tell your audience to screw off for three months. Alot of those people don't comeback and to be honest I don't care about those people because it's not my job to... I care about those who play who really love this game like I do who want the best experience to be delivered. And right now they are royally sucking ass at that.

World of Warcraft Warlords of Draenor didn't suck because it had BAD content. Warlords of Draenor sucked because it had NO content. That expansion - kicked off many things part of it was Vanilla Servers and the other portion was the first wave of people adopting FF14 because it had content but in ways that didn't pressure you to do them. And I like FF14 and the community here. I want the best experience for this game. They have to do better.

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Originally Posted by Bryson

the difficulty isn't the issue though.. i've cleared with people who don't raid savage/ultimates at all.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

forked tower isnt difficult. The bosses are like 4-5 min versions of easier ex primals, nothing crazy

its time consuming and you are not allowed to mess around much, but the mechs itself are very mediocre. You also always have people that do callouts for everyone and most of the times you can simply follow someone

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I love how people keep jumping in with "it's not difficult" while completely disregarding what the person they are quoting actually said and the context in which they said it.