WoW's player housing will have no FOMO and private housing wards

Edit because I quoted the wrong person

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Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus

So we're just gonna reduce map design, immersion, and QoL functionality down to just 'does it load'? lol
WoW hasn't made a breakthrough in:
- dealing with RMT bots in general
- having a GM team that actually works to customer satisfaction
- job balance design
- having a healthy relationship with 3rd party software
- healthy QoL in the workplace
- not having cashgrabs in the store
- handling wintrading in pvp

need I continue on the list of failures that are industry wide problems that Blizzard has failed on as well for decades.

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- dealing with RMT bots in general

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Neither has FFXIV, very far from that. Considering you and your army of alts are on Dynamis, you should know better.

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- having a GM team that actually works to customer satisfaction

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Neither has FFXIV, very far from that.

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- job balance design

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Neither has FFXIV, very far from that.

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- having a healthy relationship with 3rd party software

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Neither has FFXIV, very far from that.

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- healthy QoL in the workplace

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Neither has FFXIV, very far from that.

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- not having cashgrabs in the store

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Someone hasnt been on the FFXIV store, if you think WoW's is a cash grab.

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- handling wintrading in pvp

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Neither has FFXIV, very far from that.

Good for WoW. I hope it's good.

I mean I honestly don't really know what else to say to this. The jabs at FFXIV are funny because they are rooted in some truth, but they aren't going to really do anything to get Yoshi-P and the devs to fix the housing issues in FFXIV itself. Like sure I know we're getting the interior update and a few other small housing things this expansion, but seeing what WoW plans to do with their own housing won't really get the FFXIV dev team kicking it into high gear when it comes to their own housing issues in-game. Hope WoW's announcement will actually lead to something, but I don't really see it happening in the games' current state.

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Originally Posted by Buttobi

I have no stake in either side of this argument, but I just want to mention that half the things you mention, ffxiv suffers from as well.

- GM's only tackle simple issues like communication abuse, as soon as something like cheating or wintrading is involved then the issue becomes too complicated for them and the perpertrators never get punished.
- The job balance is better but it came at a cost, job identity. Whether this is a good thing or not is up to personal interpretation.
- SE's relationship with third party software is more clear, but again the GM team does not do anything when addons are used for cheating because they only deal with communication abuse.

If you want proof for my GM claims, talk to anyone within the ffxiv pvp community. There have been numerous wintrading incidents where the players got mass reported, but their rewards did not get taken away nor did any of the perpetrators get banned. There is an unreal amount of receipts for these incidents.

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Indeed to all comments. Actually funny how people can get caught using 3rd party software in ultimate raids and have their weapon stripped, but if you wintrade rank 1, you keep your rewards and only have a 10 day suspension at worst.

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Originally Posted by Clockworks

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I think you missed the point. That was the argument. What you're stating is what I already implied/said. It was the idea that these things are often industry wide problems that everyone deals with. Blizzard having better staff doesn't mean they can fix any and every problem that could come up.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Unless the server is hogging resources it shouldn't be (wouldn't surprise me, because it's SE), they could probably run hundreds of wards on one machine.

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Considering how bloated their item database system supposedly is (the reason why they have so many issues with expanding the glamour dresser) I would not be surprised if the housing wards and interior instances use way more resources than they really should.

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Originally Posted by IndraSyngiwyb

Amazing. Imagine a housing system that doesn't literally hold its player's subs hostage. Couldn't be Square.

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If you cannot quit because you cling to your house, then that's on you.
Square thanks you for the free money you pay just to keep it instead of playing their game.

My personal stance on housing in FF14 is a very simple one: there is no housing in FF14.

I played Rift for years, and they had a very good housing concept. You bought a dimensional key for a specific location in the game world, and the game created a copy of this place for you as your private personal space. There were hundreds of keys in the game, varying from a small cave with a little hut, up to a giant volcanic crater. In edit mode you could fly around, and place your stuff at any location you wanted - basically a 3D designer mode to create your very personal dream castle, or whatever you desired. People did wonders in these places!

But FF14? A lottery? To rent a little house which you can barely modify at all? And which you loose if you do not port there every other day? lol

I have seen what can be done when housing is done properly, and thus... there is no housing in FF14. Rift is dead now, but if WoW does a better job (which I very much doubt), then maybe this might also help SE to understand that it's 2025, and their housing concept is just a laughing stock.

People give the WoW guys way too much credit here.
They are notorious to making a good first impression to hype it up, but botch the landing badly.

Keep your expectations grounded and wait until the whole picture is visible.

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Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus

So we're just gonna reduce map design, immersion, and QoL functionality down to just 'does it load'? lol
WoW hasn't made a breakthrough in:
- dealing with RMT bots in general
- having a GM team that actually works to customer satisfaction
- job balance design
- having a healthy relationship with 3rd party software
- healthy QoL in the workplace
- not having cashgrabs in the store
- handling wintrading in pvp

need I continue on the list of failures that are industry wide problems that Blizzard has failed on as well for decades.

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WoW isn't perfect, far from it, but FFXIV does worse in every regard here:
- XIV is littered with RMT adverts and bots playing from under the map
- Both games have pretty poor GM teams and there's barely any real interactions with a real person
- Class/job balance might suck in both games but also everything is viable at the level most play it, this is entirely a community perception problem
- Square Enix have a piss poor relationship with third party software that causes many moderation issues and while I'm not a fan of certain WoW addons, at least Blizzard can moderate what happens in that space
- Is the workplace really a customers concern? Even if so, Japanese working culture is awful
- XIV has a more egregious cash store than WoW
- Win trading is far more prevalent in XIV PvP which is otherwise dead content that doesn't need to be respected

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Originally Posted by VoidsentStatus

So we're just gonna reduce map design, immersion, and QoL functionality down to just 'does it load'? lol
WoW hasn't made a breakthrough in:
- dealing with RMT bots in general
- having a GM team that actually works to customer satisfaction
- job balance design
- having a healthy relationship with 3rd party software
- healthy QoL in the workplace
- not having cashgrabs in the store
- handling wintrading in pvp

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Other then the QoL in the workplace FFXIV is not better of in any of the points you mentioned.