Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

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Originally Posted by CecMiller

Look at my adventure plate portrait - It was massacred. Someone turned the bulbs off. Where are the whites of my eyes man : d

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I think this is largely due to the new lighting engine and was something I noticed in the benchmark character creator when testing my femra. When there's ample ambient lighting the limbal ring is indistinct, but in darker/night lighting it's much more prominent, like bioluminescence or radium glow-in-the-dark stuff.

See if adjusting the lighting in the portrait improves the appearance of the eyes.

Uggghhhhh..........

https://i.imgur.com/aSUtcRE.gif
https://i.imgur.com/2nZ4Sjp.png

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Surely you are spending all your time in cutscenes staring at your character? Right?

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Yes and i'm apparently in the minority of people that like their new character. The very low quality blocky shadows caused by low poly models got fixed, skin got better and so far it's an overall improvement for me. (Seeker of the sun,face 1)
Mind you the update does have other issues, like DLSS being broken and some older areas looking worse, but as far as characters go, Im very pleased.

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Originally Posted by Caesius

I think this is largely due to the new lighting engine and was something I noticed in the benchmark character creator when testing my femra. When there's ample ambient lighting the limbal ring is indistinct, but in darker/night lighting it's much more prominent, like bioluminescence or radium glow-in-the-dark stuff.

See if adjusting the lighting in the portrait improves the appearance of the eyes.

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First thing I tried bud - I messed around with it so much xd

It doesn't really get better. If you shine the light so it hits the eyes to the point your character might aswell be a light warden with how much white light is on their face, then and only then does the eye whites look... white : d

You can't get this look anymore because the whites of the eyes are so dark now.

My opinion on the actual Dawntrail version of my WoL:

He's better than I hoped. It's so good. I was 100% not expecting the smolder but what a pleasant surprise. I am over the moon pleased with how my WoL turned out. I started playing 2 1/2 years ago and in all that time I had never been able to see the color of his eyes, and now I can, plus his nose doesn't look like it's missing something anymore.

https://i.imgur.com/CnVYKEc.png

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Originally Posted by cutestfox

Uggghhhhh..........

https://i.imgur.com/aSUtcRE.gif
https://i.imgur.com/2nZ4Sjp.png

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Yeah, that's something along those lines i noticed :

character heroism : gone

Character happyness : vanished

Million year torture in hell stare : activated

Moon Miqote Face 4 reporting in - My character is no longer smiling, and the eye fold has been moved back down to its original location! Great success!

For everyone who is still dissatisfied with their character - have hope! They fixed my character between 1.1 and release, and they said they would continue to work on it. Hopefully someday soon your character will look as they once did!

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Originally Posted by Argantaelle

It's kind of hilarious that the graphical update has given my character a second pair of eyebrows :D

https://i.imgur.com/ZgppPuE.png

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It's eyelid "shape" shadow but that means, yeah, that the eyes are pretty deep under the brow muscle area

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Originally Posted by JokoCGN

tbf 80% of the before / after, U looking better after.

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You’re likely judging based on things like lighting, model and texture quality, subjective attractiveness, etc. The people you’re responding to are likely judging based on whether they recognize their character as the same person, whether the character has retained specific details they liked, whether the character has the same resting expression (and, therefore, the same apparent personality) as they did before, and other things of that nature. These are different standards.

Good:
The large nose issue from second benchmark is SIGNIFICANTLY better, so thank you so much for that. Pupil size also looks like it was adjusted and looks perfect to me.

Issues:
Eye shape is still off due to the change in shape to the eyeliner/upper lash line. The bottom lashes are very smudgy and undefined.
Lip shape is still quite off. The cupid's bow area has more defined peaks and the bottom lip is thicker.
DT version feels younger looking to me, like her face is more round in the jawline and chin area and a little more puffy.
Eyebrows are too light.

Of all the things at the moment, I think the change in eye shape/perceived eye shape bothers me the most and makes her feel the most different, and if I could only get one more thing adjusted before devs decided they were done fussing with it, it would be that. I could live with that. Thank you very much for continuing to consider feedback. I'll try to do a draw-over in the near future and add it to the post.

(left is DT, right is EW
https://i.imgur.com/3IwPu4m.jpeg

(left is benchmark 2.0, right is EW character creator)
https://i.imgur.com/KJqK60Q.jpeg