SQEX Attempt to Eradicate "Foreigners" from JP Server by BLOCKING/Convolute PAYMENT.

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Originally Posted by hagare

tell me how SEA players can have a legitimate address in their account if they don't live in EU/NA/JPN



so what do you suggest SEA players do to not commit address fraud?

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That's the problem. Unless SE officially supports their home countries in one of the EULAs, the only way they can play is by committing fraud.

I'm not trying to claim anyone is a bad person for using a fake address or "borrowing" the address of an overseas friend. Gamers have been doing this for games not locally available to them for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if a large chunk of the NA player base is guilty of doing it for other JP games that are locked to JP only.

But it comes with risks and unfortunately we've hit a situation where the risk finally came back to bite people. I highly doubt that SE wants to be turning away the SEA players but they may be caught between a rock and a hard place thanks to all the card scams that were going on in 2021/2022 and whatever is keeping them from doing business in the SEA countries.

If none of the workarounds that still work for others are options that affected players can attempt, they may have to accept they're not going to be able to play the game anymore.

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Originally Posted by Lieri

There is no need for this kind of dislike towards a certain group.

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I don't have a dislike here for anyone except the OP and his massive conspiracy theory.

I'm honestly hoping that something gets worked out that will allow SEA players to continue to play. But there's the real chance that the situation won't improve. That the risk of trying to play from an unsupported country.

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

The web devs are just completely incompetent. Almost nothing about the storefront or the mogstation is integrated or works with any standard, common pattern. They leave console.log commands in their live code logging keypresses, it takes them weeks to track down an issue even when someone who actually is a web developer provided them with screenshots and details from the console of exactly what is happening and when it happens (and a theory as to why it might be happening).

They just aren't good at this and they refuse to hire folks that are. It's one of the things I think makes some Japanese companies weaker - reluctance to look outside for talent. There's been huge strides in web development and SE is taking advantage of exactly none of them.

So, it's not discrimination, they simply aren't good at this. Friend, I feel for you. I hope they get it sorted at some point for you, but I assure you their incompetence is in no way deliberate. This just isn't their wheelhouse.

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Yup. This is the truth. Its as simple as the company making bad decision (and have always been) when it comes into mogstation. Its as simple as that.

And to the posters who replied to my post. I merely stated its a sensitive subject to be either directly or indirectly calling certain group as fraudsters. You dont need to try and justify it by sweeten those actions by using other politically correct words. Not to me fam, I dislike discrimination a lot. Discrimination is bad. End of story.

Im pretty sure in certain countries even calling certain group by certain words are seen as bad. Let alone "fraudster".

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

If none of the workarounds that still work for others are options that affected players can attempt, they may have to accept they're not going to be able to play the game anymore.

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I don't think it's hard to understand why people don't like someone who's wholly unaffected by any of the issues coming into a thread by people who are affected by the issues and telling them "Well, I guess you just can't play anymore.".

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

That's the problem. Unless SE officially supports their home countries in one of the EULAs, the only way they can play is by committing fraud.

I'm not trying to claim anyone is a bad person for using a fake address or "borrowing" the address of an overseas friend. Gamers have been doing this for games not locally available to them for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if a large chunk of the NA player base is guilty of doing it for other JP games that are locked to JP only.

But it comes with risks and unfortunately we've hit a situation where the risk finally came back to bite people. I highly doubt that SE wants to be turning away the SEA players but they may be caught between a rock and a hard place thanks to all the card scams that were going on in 2021/2022 and whatever is keeping them from doing business in the SEA countries.

If none of the workarounds that still work for others are options that affected players can attempt, they may have to accept they're not going to be able to play the game anymore.

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So frauds and scammers.
And if you can't play it. Tough.

Oh well.
The icing on the cake will be if they cancel my DT pre-order lmao.
Damn it SE.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Not even sure what hagare's endgame there was or why he seemed to jump on you.
Everyone affected is going to be a bit heated.
I'm affected too and I'm in a supported country!

You just gotta do what you gotta do sometimes. People will find a way to pay for service.

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I guess some people just don't like being called frauds.
Weird right *shrug*

What a bunch of cowards.

SE store wont even let me purchase dawntrail. If the intent is forcing SEA players out of their game, its definetly working.

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Originally Posted by Himsanity

SE store wont even let me purchase dawntrail. If the intent is forcing SEA players out of their game, its definetly working.

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sadly. You must commit fraud to buy a digital game from the SE store.
Aka, lie your ass off about where you live xD

wait........ does DT have a physical version of the game?

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Originally Posted by hagare

sadly. You must commit fraud to buy a digital game from the SE store.
Aka, lie your ass off about where you live xD

wait........ does DT have a physical version of the game?

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Dawntrail won't have a physical disc just a digital download. (Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong)

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Originally Posted by Krokov

Dawntrail won't have a physical disc just a digital download. (Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong)

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and you have to put in a billing address.
And I don't think SEA is one of the choices.
Oh well

I think a lot of people don't understand the extent of the issue in this thread.
I made my account 10 years ago, living in a supported region.
I have since moved to a different country that uses a different supported currency within that same supported region.

I am unable to change my listed country of residence or the currency that I'm charged in. Customer support have told me it's not possible. Twice.

If I now touch my sub or would like to take a break, my bank card that is issued by the new country will be blocked as it doesn't match my listed residential country.

That is just a terrible system and terrible customer service. They obviously are aware of the SEA player base and want to include them as they've had official FF fan events in one of those countries. It's just nonsensical.