New Shatter map... something Feels off.

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Originally Posted by Aubrey_A

I believe the previous version of Shatter was a more enjoyable game mode. I also firmly believe that the "spirit of PVP" PVPers understand doesn't align with SE's plan for the game. To that end, I don't think any level of condemnation of Shatter will have any effect. A post in a different thread resonates with how I think PVP develops:



I'm hoping putting trust into the process makes for a fun game mode somewhere down the line. SE has all the statistics and metrics of play after all.

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Why trust Square when they have failed to make PvP better since 6.1? I for one will not sit down and just accept that Square will shovel trash in our face because they "have a plan" or that they'll make it fun "down the line." I'm sorry, why can't it be fun literally right now? Why should we have to wait and accept that we're going to be given inferior PvP until they decide we're worthy of better content?

If a mechanic fails to fix your car 4 times in a row, do you trust him? I don't. Square has proven that even if they *have* statistics, they don't know what the hell they're doing with them. Shatter has been universally panned by literally the entire playerbase. I never see people saying "Wow I love the new shatter" in alliance chat.

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Originally Posted by Spiffer

I don't Like the shatter changes. I thought changes were much needed and they are but adding more PVE elements and reducing the points for pvp kills in a PVP GAMEMODE feels bad....cant explain it more simple then that.

Feedback#1 If they want to have competitive pve game they should make a mode for that maybe add like 2-3 maps for just that.

Feedback#2 Make matches shorter if you reduce pvp kill points.

Feedback#3 Add a way to que Rival wings Roulette maybe a CC roulette too.

Feedback#4 Add some way to que directly into the type of game the mode you want, A roating FL forces ppl to play maps they do not like. Example: Keep the roulette on a rotation but make all of them queable so we can do the daily then pick the map you want.


And before anyone flames know that I have played quite of few pvp and pve type modes in various other games These changes are very basic and very possible. I just want the experiance to improve.

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Feedback #1 - it's called Rival Wings
Feedback #2 - agree
Feedback #3 - RW roulette yes, CC roulette no - casual CC games are already flooded with clueless people, let's not exasperate it (clueless = dont know what guard, sprint, elixir, recuperate, lb are / dont read their skillset tooltips)
Feedback #4 - that's how it used to be at one point, nobody queued for shatter or secure lmao, it was 24/7 seal rock (which was nice)

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Originally Posted by Nubrication

Feedback #1 - it's called Rival Wings
Feedback #2 - agree
Feedback #3 - RW roulette yes, CC roulette no - casual CC games are already flooded with clueless people, let's not exasperate it (clueless = dont know what guard, sprint, elixir, recuperate, lb are / dont read their skillset tooltips)
Feedback #4 - that's how it used to be at one point, nobody queued for shatter or secure lmao, it was 24/7 seal rock (which was nice)

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I think the thing to avoid is mixing RW and FL into a single roulette, as has been suggested here on multiple occasions. RW has its staunch supporters, but clearly most people don't like it based on queue times.

The flow of the map would be fine in theory, if it wasn't 20 mins long and to reach 2000 points. Both should be cut in half. I been bored out of my skull for the last 10 mins of a match because it feels like I am waiting for the obvious winning team to reach their goal while I know whatever team I am stuck on is either going to be a toss-up of 2nd or 3rd place.

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Originally Posted by Archeron

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Without going into it too much, I give SE some credit for trying something different. Did they miss the mark? I think they did; I enjoyed the previous version more. SE's the only mechanic in town with the tools to make change though. Might take 4, 8, 12 months, or more to change.

Again, I agree with OP's feedback #1. I'd be ecstatic if SE had a rotation that went back and forward between Onsal and Seal Rock. A different one for Shatter, or maybe Shatter and similar modes.

From 2000 to 1600 points
And player kill from 5 to 8.
At least the matches will not feel like an eternity

Good change today, the map is improving. Faster and pvp will actually matter again. The group fights were already more common and at least they'll feel worth it now.

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Originally Posted by Teno

Good change today, the map is improving. Faster and pvp will actually matter again. The group fights were already more common and at least they'll feel worth it now.

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Faster won't help it matter again. Faster will just make an already unfun experience feel less tedious. The core issues were never addressed to make it more fun.

I find premades a bigger issue in shatter and all frontline maps

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Originally Posted by Jettinson

From 2000 to 1600 points
And player kill from 5 to 8.
At least the matches will not feel like an eternity

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The lower point requirement is appreciated, the increased points from kills might be a problem, but that is more in relation to standard premade stuff.