(Large Housing Problem) 177 Bids on One House

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Originally Posted by Lusarae

I wouldn't be against a cap of how many people can bid on a house. 100 is more than enough. You'd have at least one or two days to get that slot. It wouldn't help much but it would be better than nothing.

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Cap is only make things worse. Is unfair to those who only ables make bids late in bidding period. All is doings by setting cap is to make Frankenstein hybrid of old system and new. Current lottery system is fair to ALL. Only peoples wanting advantage for themselves is ones against lottery.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Cap is only make things worse. Is unfair to those who only ables make bids late in bidding period. All is doings by setting cap is to make Frankenstein hybrid of old system and new. Current lottery system is fair to ALL. Only peoples wanting advantage for themselves is ones against lottery.

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"current system is fair to all" aka "i'm enjoying being agaisnt 50+ bids for every house and losing it's so much fun !!"

some people just love losing over and over again, looks like it's your case

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

"current system is fair to all" aka "i'm enjoying being agaisnt 50+ bids for every house and losing it's so much fun !!"

some people just love losing over and over again, looks like it's your case

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THAT is not lottery problem. That is supply problem. By way, Mao has medium house earned by participatings in lottery. Took Mao many tries but Mao was persistent and gots luckys in end.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

THAT is not lottery problem. That is supply problem. By way, Mao has medium house earned by participatings in lottery. Took Mao many tries but Mao was persistent and gots luckys in end.

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Yes and lottery is not helping in any way.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Yes and lottery is not helping in any way.

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The lottery CAN'T help. NOTHING can except for increasing supply. All lottery can do is make distribution fair for ALL.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

The lottery CAN'T help. NOTHING can except for increasing supply. All lottery can do is make distribution fair for ALL.

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There is nothing "fair" about being agaisnt 300 people in a housing lottery.

I'd find it more fair to be agaisnt 20 bots at a placard than to be agaisnt 300 people

but hey to each their own as I said, some people just love to lose.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

There is nothing "fair" about being agaisnt 300 people in a housing lottery.

I'd find it more fair to be agaisnt 20 bots at a placard than to be agaisnt 300 people

but hey to each their own as I said, some people just love to lose.

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Actually that's nothing but fair since it's 100% random on who gets it. Which is actually more fair because bots will beat you in the clicking game every time. What people were asking for when they thought random was "I only have to bid against one to two people" The reality was a lottery system was always going to be a lot more accessible to the players. And the more competition they have now the lower their chances were going to be to win a plot. The devs didn't create this solution, the players on the forum themselves were the one who really championed the lottery idea and the developers gave the community what they asked for.

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Originally Posted by Solowing

Actually that's nothing but fair since it's 100% random on who gets it. Which is actually more fair because of that will beat you in the clicking game every time. What people were asking for when they thought random was "I only have to bid against one to two people" The reality was a lottery system was always going to be a lot more accessible to the players. And the more competition they had now the lower their chances were going to be. The devs didn't create this solution the players on the forum themselves were the one who really championed this and they simply listened

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Solowing is right. Lottery is absolutely fair and it DID make housing more accessible to players. Mao was major proponent for lottery buts Mao wasn't kidding self. Mao knew Mao chances of winnings house would go down. In Mao mind though, this was not abouts Mao getting house. This was abouts making system fair for EVERYONE. Mao already accepted fact that Mao chances would be worse. Lottery period after lottery period came and went. Mao participated in thems all. Mao sad that Mao nots has house but Mao was glad that system was fair. Then one day Mao gots lucky and now Mao has house. All Mao can say to those who want house is keep trying. Maybe one day SE will add more wards or new city districts or instanced houses. Until then, if wants house, just keep participating in lottery. Maybe will gets lucky.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

There is nothing "fair" about being agaisnt 300 people in a housing lottery.

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All 300 people and you have a 1/301 chance of winning. Equal odds for all is the most fair thing to have.

While there can be systems that make dedication rewarded (ie: each consecutive bid adds 1 bidding ticket up to a total of 5) , you will still run into the same issue: most others will have those same rewards boosting their chance. Instead of 1/301 it might then be 5/1200 (or 1/240). Which are still pathetic odds, while also making the situation for the less dedicated (or for relocations) worse.

The current system is the most fair you can get, but that is also why it feels extra anoying to lose. You cant tell whether you lost against someone who does a lot with the house, or someone who only uses it for a summoning bell. And regardless of that, you are still put into a cycle of waiting. Waiting isnt fun.

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Originally Posted by NightHour

http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/.../60881473.html

Get Google Translate on hand unless you can understand Japanese





I just got my Medium 3 days ago after trying for nearly a year.

I was in an Empyreum Small ever since the first lottery of Endwalker.

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Honestly I finally got my medium after living in a small for 2 years - so seeing people say "medium or nothing" frankly reeks of entitlement to me.