Wondering what to do, honestly...

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Originally Posted by Travel

Yeah, sorry for turning this entire thread into a fight, guys; was just posting my thoughts on the current situation, trying to get an idea of how to proceed for hardcore content. Didn't mean to start an argument.

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Definitely not your fault, people are really cranky about the balance of the game right now.

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

You could have both balance and job/gameplay diversity. Why make them oppose each other lol

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If it's so easy, where is it then?

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

If it's so easy, where is it then?

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Quality isn't necessarily easy, but is necessary. The game was a lot more balanced after Midas all the way until Endwalker. It was never perfectly balanced and we always had some outliers, but there was never as much of a gap as there is currently since Midas.

That being said, while FF14 isn't at its best right now, it's still miles above every other MMO with job balance currently.

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

I might agree with his take if with melees being harder rotation wise but then Bard kinda exists and

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has an easier rotation than every melee. I know

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Originally Posted by FireMage

has an easier rotation than every melee. I know

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Iunno, did you play Bard in savage? :eyes: Difficulty is subjective. I can't play bard for crap.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

If it's so easy, where is it then?

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In PvP lol

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Originally Posted by Mithron

I find RDM's rotation much harder than NIN's since EW and I've loved playing NIN since HW and RDM since SB ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I specifically play NIN when I want braindead EZ mode rotations but high DPS. SMN is easier of course, but NIN isn't much harder for me.

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I've raided on both NIN+RDM and RDM is my chill fun times brain off job haha Not that I think NIN is super hard or complex or anything, but RDM has always been super comfy imo. I love both jobs, but neither is all that hard.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

Iunno, did you play Bard in savage? :eyes: Difficulty is subjective. I can't play bard for crap.

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Now I'm convinced he's trolling us

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

Now I'm convinced he's trolling us

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Not a troll in the slightest

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Originally Posted by Travel

Yeah, sorry for turning this entire thread into a fight, guys; was just posting my thoughts on the current situation, trying to get an idea of how to proceed for hardcore content. Didn't mean to start an argument.

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Don't be sorry, and try not to let arguments of minutiae bother you. Balance isn't that great at the moment and there are plenty of passionate people with opinions on the topic.

And trolls.

But play Red Mage and enjoy it. If your goal is Eden, it can tackle that easy. If your goal is bleeding edge prog, Red Mage will be a good choice through the first three floors of any tier on release, but have a second caster prepped if you're not ready to pull out all of RDM's stops. Finding a good group is going to be your first challenge no matter what job you play, as well :)