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    Yakov Kreso
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    Gunbreaker Lv 70

    Wondering what to do, honestly...

    Just me posting my thoughts, honestly.

    So, I finally jumped back into the game a few days ago, and... looking at the community, I feel like that meme pic of the guy holding a pizza walking into the room, only to see said room is trashed and on fire.

    With the current job balance being the way it is, I'm at a lost on what to actually do right now; I've been trying to level RDM, after you guys suggested last time - seriously, massive thanks to you guys, that job is awesome - but with how RDM is near the lower end on DPS right now, part of me has been considering looking at other jobs to run, temporarily.

    I am going to be going into Savage sometime in the future - looking to grab a certain mount and get a build designed, after I finish with the rest of Shadowbringers and Endwalker's MSQ - and I feel like it would be a decent idea to grab a higher DPS job until the devs can bring RDM back to grace - RDM isn't bad, mind you, just looking for a little extra damage right now.

    Not quite sure which other job to main, right now; got a few ideas, though, just gotta get to the upper 80s to really see how some of the jobs play.

    Course, there's the issue of leveling as well; currently taking some jobs through Shb, and it's pretty slow for DPS jobs, what with the Exarch and Thancred only making small pulls and the naturally long que times otherwise. Other than that, though, can't complain too much.

    So, how are you guys doing? Thoughts on the current state of DPS balance? Any idea when we might be getting a balance patch?
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Balance is ok? right now, it may seem awful but it hasn't been the best for a while the check in p8s fight just let a lot of people see the differences, While yes Reaper, RDM and certainly machinist are struggling right now, the balance isn't as bad as it seems, pretty much all jobs are viable in all forms of content, Red mage is actually still pretty decent for what it is of course it could do with some extra damage, I wouldn't discourage you from playing it because I'm sure it would be fine if you took it into harder content, keep in mind RDM in it's current state shouldn't perform as well as some other DPS jobs, but it should be doing around the same as summoner if not more.

    Personally im fine with the current state also worried about my main job PLD being changed in the wrong ways but at this point we will wait and see.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Balance is mostly impactful for party finder and week 1.
    If you don't prog the raid in hardcore manner and don't care about clearing fast with few loot, you won't be impacted by balance.
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Balance is ok?
    It's not, at all. Several Jobs are out of place
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    Yakov Kreso
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Balance is mostly impactful for party finder... hardcore manner... clearing fast with few loot.
    That's... actually what I was a bit concerned about. I admit, I am something of a casual right now, but I was planning on going into the more hardcore content after getting a more concrete build made. I can't join up with any major raiding groups on the Discord and such - I have a very difficult IRL schedule these days - so I have to join up with randoms and hope for the best. That's why I was paying such close attention to the job balance: with random teammates, you never know what you're going to get. You follow?
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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travel View Post
    That's... actually what I was a bit concerned about. I admit, I am something of a casual right now, but I was planning on going into the more hardcore content after getting a more concrete build made. I can't join up with any major raiding groups on the Discord and such - I have a very difficult IRL schedule these days - so I have to join up with randoms and hope for the best. That's why I was paying such close attention to the job balance: with random teammates, you never know what you're going to get. You follow?
    RDM is actually a very good job for what you're looking for, then. You're not going to be in positions where you need that little extra damage to clear that RDM can't bring because you won't be in groups doing week 1 4th tier savage fights where it matters. RDM is fine, and probably better than some others in late week solo PFs because of Verraise. Fights are a lot more recoverable because everyone has better gear, and you also have Magick Barrier that's amazing at keeping runs from wiping.

    It's true that job balance in FF14 is arguably the worst it's been since Midas, but overall in terms of MMOs and other games it's still very good. You can play RDM right now and clear all savage fights with no issue reliably in solo PF, and this will only become more true once you finish leveling, gearing, and skilling up to be able to do savage.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travel View Post
    That's... actually what I was a bit concerned about. I admit, I am something of a casual right now, but I was planning on going into the more hardcore content after getting a more concrete build made. I can't join up with any major raiding groups on the Discord and such - I have a very difficult IRL schedule these days - so I have to join up with randoms and hope for the best. That's why I was paying such close attention to the job balance: with random teammates, you never know what you're going to get. You follow?
    Nevermind the community and a lot of what's being thrown around. Find out for yourself what's going to work within your schedule. You're more likely to find bad players to be the issue than the job balance.
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    DPS balance is pretty bad. If you are going casual, the balance doesn't matter too much since you get carried by gear mostly. If you want to go hardcore eventually like you said, I would actually recommend learning two jobs within the same role.

    Regardless of casual or hardcore, being able to flex within a role is an invaluable asset. Most of the time they share similar, if not the same, BiS so you can swap out easily. If you play both jobs at a decent level, you can choose which one to better fit the situation - PF or Static? Prog or Clear?

    If that is not something that sounds appealing, just play RDM. It may be harder to find a party (i'm a mch i know the woes), but you will find one eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    DPS balance is pretty bad. If you are going casual, the balance doesn't matter too much since you get carried by gear mostly. If you want to go hardcore eventually like you said, I would actually recommend learning two jobs within the same role.

    Regardless of casual or hardcore, being able to flex within a role is an invaluable asset. Most of the time they share similar, if not the same, BiS so you can swap out easily. If you play both jobs at a decent level, you can choose which one to better fit the situation - PF or Static? Prog or Clear?

    If that is not something that sounds appealing, just play RDM. It may be harder to find a party (i'm a mch i know the woes), but you will find one eventually.
    Truth be told, I'm looking to learn and gear for Savage so I can start grinding to get the Eden mount; it was one of the few Sin-Eater mounts available, and I was looking to grab it for the sake of a glamour I was trying to make.

    Yes, I am looking to take part in one of the hardest raids in the game for the sole purpose of fashion.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travel View Post
    Truth be told, I'm looking to learn and gear for Savage so I can start grinding to get the Eden mount; it was one of the few Sin-Eater mounts available, and I was looking to grab it for the sake of a glamour I was trying to make.
    That's previous expansion content.
    Between expansions the damage gap is massive, if you get a group and get in unsynch, it will be very, very easy.
    Boss could get killed in 2-3 minutes based on the content and the group, healing won't be a problem.
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