6.1 Samurai: the Kaiten removal was the right choice but it's not enough

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Originally Posted by Ironbars4564

SAM is not as fun for me to play without Kaiten. The Kenki gage is now just basically a Shinten gage. The skill required to get your optimized burst out under raid buffs is reduced. The class is now easier to play, and therefore the reduced damage is justified.

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I've been playing a lot more DRG lately. Seriously considering dropping sam and hoping they fix it in 6.2.

Seeing this Thread this morning, put an evil grin on my face like no other.

I very much agree and support the OP's opinions and feelings on the matter.

Happy Easter!!!

Imagine being "happy" because part of a community suffers from the poor decisions made by a leader. Wow, that is pathetic. Guess I can call this my feeding of the troll, though. But you really should consider seeking help if that's how you obtain your joy.

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Originally Posted by RaevusAstra

The amount of toxicity, sarcasm, and gatekeeping in this thread is extreme.

People can have different opinions and change their minds with new information regardless of what stance you're on.

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Please, this is pathetic.

Glad OP isn't sam. developer! no one agree's your changes/idea's are worse then the one implemented =)

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Originally Posted by Ransu

I've been playing a lot more DRG lately. Seriously considering dropping sam and hoping they fix it in 6.2.

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DRG is supposed to be getting a rework in 6.2 right? There's a chance you're setting yourself up for a second round of disappointment

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Originally Posted by RaevusAstra

The amount of toxicity, sarcasm, and gatekeeping in this thread is extreme.

People can have different opinions and change their minds with new information regardless of what stance you're on.

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If you agree with OP's opinion then DRK living dead fix was a mistake, yes this is my opinion, you are toxic if you dont agree with me

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Originally Posted by CelestiCer

That is very true, so I'll give a METAPHOR...

We love Pizza! and the Cheese is great! gives it amazing " Flavor " but our Cheese is replaced with CowSh*t. Were angry yet someone is yelling how " CowSh*t was the right choice, but it's not enough " as in don't stop there.

We know Pizza. Cheese on Pizza is universally accepted by Pizza lovers, impossible to argue. Yet the claim that we all should eat CowSh*T Pizza over Cheese? and encouraging to not stop there? Seems like false feedback. Who would love CowSh*T pizza? But even crazier? having people defend that opinion... I know right? And you can! But Pizza lovers will question if we both love Pizza cause Pizza and Cheese we want that back vs encouraging... the dismissive hottake of CowSh*T Pizza because CowSh*T on Pizza is...ya know, to put it blunt... quite literally Sh*T.

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We didn't even get CowSh*T. They just took our cheese away.

They took our cheese away and told us "We have to take the cheese away because we're going to improve the sauce later. Don't worry, once we improve the sauce in 4-20 months time we'll give you a different cheese."

And when we complain because we want cheese on our pizza or we're not going to eat it anymore, people tell us "Look, the pizza still has plenty of toppings!" or "It'll all be fine once they fix the sauce!" or "I'm lactose intolerant so this is a huge improvement!"

And then there's posts like the OP who say "Removing the cheese is a great idea, but it's not enough. Without the cheese the dough is really bland, so it should go too."

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Originally Posted by baklava151

DRG is supposed to be getting a rework in 6.2 right? There's a chance you're setting yourself up for a second round of disappointment

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It is what it is. I'll figure out what to play from there.

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Originally Posted by YukiB

We didn't even get CowSh*T. They just took our cheese away.

They took our cheese away and told us "We have to take the cheese away because we're going to improve the sauce later. Don't worry, once we improve the sauce in 4-20 months time we'll give you a different cheese."

And when we complain because we want cheese on our pizza or we're not going to eat it anymore, people tell us "Look, the pizza still has plenty of toppings!" or "It'll all be fine once they fix the sauce!" or "I'm lactose intolerant so this is a huge improvement!"

And then there's posts like the OP who say "Removing the cheese is a great idea, but it's not enough. Without the cheese the dough is really bland, so it should go too."

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Which is kinda par for course when it comes to dumb shit the devs do. Take a Job, rip a mechanic out, and then replace it with nothing. Remove MP drain from Darkside which leads to Dark Arts spam which leads to Dark Arts being removed and a hole in DRK's kit. Remove Greased Lightning from MNK and tell them to wait until 6.0 where they also remove most of their positionals just for good measure. Remove DoTs and Bane from SCH, ignore all feedback. Remove Kaiten, tell players it's to make room for new stuff in two years when the next expac drops. Can't wait to see how they gut DRG and AST in Patch 6.2.