Stop complaining. You wanted this.

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Originally Posted by Unkara

i think many forget that all those mutli boxer will bid with every char they have, at the same and at all open plots, their chance to get the housing plot via lottery are way higher
they will only lose a little more gil if they win multiple plots

the biggest problem is an will be all those mutliboxer player and mutli account/alt users that hoard whole districts with two player FCs ..........
this screens are from Spriggan - Chaos
and district 20 came after the limit with 1 privat and 1 FC house per account ................[/IMG]

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Sigh.

It's a difficult comparison to make, because at the time those houses were purchased, Spriggan was a dead server. All those plots had devalued to their lowest price. I won't drag morality into it because everyone has their own opinions, but you can't compare the ownership of entire wards that were bought under weird circumstances with what is going on now.

SE is the one who decided all FC members can buy tickets, so perhaps you can ask them to rethink that idea.

(I find it interesting everyone drags the <Lucis> FC but never mentions the <Moon> FCs on Mateus anymore, or other ward owners. Nothing but an amusing observation on my part with this tangent.)

Just like that the cracks are already showing. 6 wards when arguably most of the people who want a house want it for personal reasons anyway. Why they went this direction? Beats me. This seems tone deaf to what the community wants but then again they wanted a lottery they got it and still complain. Less personal wards is a horrible idea. 6.1 drops tomorrow. Good Luck everyone be sure to check your favorite websites in 5 days. The Salt Mines will be bursting.

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Originally Posted by Unkara

i think many forget that all those mutli boxer will bid with every char they have, at the same and at all open plots, their chance to get the housing plot via lottery are way higher
they will only lose a little more gil if they win multiple plots

the biggest problem is an will be all those mutliboxer player and mutli account/alt users that hoard whole districts with two player FCs ..........
this screens are from Spriggan - Chaos
and district 20 came after the limit with 1 privat and 1 FC house per account ................

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I would call this fixation on Spriggan unhealthy. They were bought under other circumstances back in the past (dead server, no buying restriction etc). You should better invest your time in blaming at Square for the minimum of supply.
Or better blame the Board of Square for collecting money from FFXIV and invest it in failures like Avengers etc. instead of reinvesting it in FFXIV.

What comes next that its all a conspiracy of the Illuminati that all Houses are now favour FCs instead of Personals?

It is a fair system, also bye bye you lame botters!!!

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

It is a fair system, also bye bye you lame botters!!!

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How many alts do you have ready to go for this lottery? If you answered 0 congrats, you're boned. You think its fair because of the word "lottery" while ignoring everything around it. how is 6 wards for personal fair when the majority just want a home for themselves.

*laugh*

"goodbye bots" no...
Not even close.

This is the age of botswarms.

THOUSANDS of bots will buy one ticket each, with purchased gold, that will cause the gold bots to be empowered to run thousands more to make more gold... to sell to more lotto bots.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

It is a fair system, also bye bye you lame botters!!!

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If you think this is a fair because it's a lottery, congratulations.

While I was turning in my GC seals (was a guildless sprout), I had someone who whispered me asking if I could help him gather signature cuz they wanted to form an FC and will send some gill. I agreed and he paid me 10k gills afterwards. Then he asks if I want to do it some more. Back then I didn't know, I was just happy getting 100k gill for doing nothing.

I guess he was getting ready for today patch

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Unfortunately, I do not agree with you on this as you tend to shift all blames on SE when we as players also contribute to this issue.
For a fact, majority of players do not care about Housing because decoration is not everyone cup of tea.

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Ultimately, the blame does lie with SE because the system is one of SE's design. The player contribution to the problem is very small because it's only a very small number of players exploiting the loopholes in the system for personal gain. Most are trying to engage with the system as intended.

Where are you getting this "fact" that the majority of players do not care about housing? Have you individually polled every single player to get this information?

Right now, the system doesn't even accommodate the minority when you take into account how the available plots are open equally to FCs and individuals.

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Originally Posted by Unkara

i think many forget that all those mutli boxer will bid with every char they have, at the same and at all open plots, their chance to get the housing plot via lottery are way higher
they will only lose a little more gil if they win multiple plots

the biggest problem is an will be all those mutliboxer player and mutli account/alt users that hoard whole districts with two player FCs ..........
this screens are from Spriggan - Chaos
and district 20 came after the limit with 1 privat and 1 FC house per account ................

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While the new system doesn't cut out RMT and multiple house owners, it's not going to be as easy to acquire multiple plots going forward as you make it sound.

The RNG of the lottery itself is going to be a big hindrance, especially as the initial supply of houses dry up and we're down to a few plots available per lottery period. Having 50 entries isn't much advantage if you're competing against 1000 others.

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Originally Posted by Nepentha

Sigh.

It's a difficult comparison to make, because at the time those houses were purchased, Spriggan was a dead server. All those plots had devalued to their lowest price. I won't drag morality into it because everyone has their own opinions, but you can't compare the ownership of entire wards that were bought under weird circumstances with what is going on now.

SE is the one who decided all FC members can buy tickets, so perhaps you can ask them to rethink that idea.

(I find it interesting everyone drags the <Lucis> FC but never mentions the <Moon> FCs on Mateus anymore, or other ward owners. Nothing but an amusing observation on my part with this tangent.)

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People bring up the ones they're most familiar with. Not to mention that Mateus was done long before the 4.2 housing changes while the Lucis set up was done entirely after since Spriggan was a new world.

But you're right that those aren't the only ones. I saw a lot of similar set ups when I was doing a world wide census back in 2019. Didn't matter where I was, every data center and most worlds had similar set ups operating in at least one ward if not two or three. When you see the ward filled with FCs using the same tag and that were established after January 2018, you know you're looking at someone abusing the system.

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Originally Posted by Yodada

I would call this fixation on Spriggan unhealthy. They were bought under other circumstances back in the past (dead server, no buying restriction etc). You should better invest your time in blaming at Square for the minimum of supply.
Or better blame the Board of Square for collecting money from FFXIV and invest it in failures like Avengers etc. instead of reinvesting it in FFXIV.

What comes next that its all a conspiracy of the Illuminati that all Houses are now favour FCs instead of Personals?

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Spriggan (and Twintania) might have had a surplus of available houses at the time but the rules were still already in existence. One personal and one FC house per world per service account. I highly doubt there's a separate service account for each of those houses.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

It is a fair system, also bye bye you lame botters!!!

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The use of a bot program might no longer be necessary but all those characters still exist and will still be entering into the lottery.

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Originally Posted by Heh

If you think this is a fair because it's a lottery, congratulations.

While I was turning in my GC seals (was a guildless sprout), I had someone who whispered me asking if I could help him gather signature cuz they wanted to form an FC and will send some gill. I agreed and he paid me 10k gills afterwards. Then he asks if I want to do it some more. Back then I didn't know, I was just happy getting 100k gill for doing nothing.

I guess he was getting ready for today patch

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Very likely. RMT isn't dumb. They watch for opportunity and plan ahead.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Spriggan (and Twintania) might have had a surplus of available houses at the time but the rules were still already in existence. One personal and one FC house per world per service account. I highly doubt there's a separate service account for each of those houses.

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Maybe you should ask them then? Its pretty simple. And to be honest its a nice Ward to look at once its finished decorating. I would suggest to visit it the future.

Back to your reply. 8 FC Houses per World are possible. You can now extrapolate how many Accounts the Lucis Guy is paying for. I mean if he wants to spend this money who am I to judge it. I spend more money on Vinyl per month so it doesnt matter if he wants to pay for 8 Accounts per month if its his hobby.

And yes for Spriggan and Twintania when the Server got implemented it was under the already 1 Perso / 1 FC Rule but you could still went to the plots and buy them even if you already owned a house on this world. Funny isnt it?

Thats a fact which we cant deny. Maybe it wasnt enforced for both Servers back then. Oversight from Square? Possible. Cheap Coding for the Check? Also Possible.
My personal guess is that the certain Rule will be only enforced once a certain percentage of all plots are sold on a Server. Till then the Check isnt in place to buy more than one House.

Maybe someone on the OCE Data Center is gonna try it for science. We'll have to see what happens with the dead OCE Servers in the Future.

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Originally Posted by ICountFrom0

*laugh*

"goodbye bots" no...
Not even close.

This is the age of botswarms.

THOUSANDS of bots will buy one ticket each, with purchased gold, that will cause the gold bots to be empowered to run thousands more to make more gold... to sell to more lotto bots.

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This Man gets it. People who aren't going to the FC wards are being funneled into a small area. It will be insane. Mark my words. The Salt will be through the roof.