Endgame content is too stressfull and difficult

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Originally Posted by rsod

Endgame content (savages especially) is too difficult and therefore too stressful.
Completion of savages requires multi-hour wiping for a many weeks or even some months, as well as pretty much perfecting rotation, and rotations in FFXIV are very difficult on their own.
This isn't particularly fun, and not everyone is as perfect. Not every human is entitled with enough reaction. Trying for hours every day just to get your bis equipment does not feels right and good.
Moreover, such difficulty leads to difficutly to find people to practice and run dungeons with. If you wasn't lucky to find a group at the beginning of the content - you're pretty much out of it for good.
Something needs to be done about that. Either savage difficulty relaxed a bit, or another source of same bis equipment is needed. Let it be 2 times slower to get than savage's loot, but let it be. For these people, who can't do savages due to time issues, or due to lack of proper reaction and skills, or due to inability to find a group.

I'm sorry for any possible mistakes in text, I'm not native English speaker and my English knowledge is mediocre.

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You sound like a perfect candidate for a game like animal crossing. I suggest you go get a switch.

I have to agree with most of the people who are saying both not to do savage if you don't enjoy it and that BiS is unnecessary unless you are doing savage. Because both of those are right.

You can grind standard duties for tome gear. When the next alliance raid releases, you'll have the ability to upgrade said tome gear. Usually the savage raids offer gear that is a measley 5-10 ilvls higher than the current tome gear (which is questionable once said gear is augmentable) and possibly with slightly better stat weights. The effect of which is negligible in standard duties unless you're a regular parser and honestly unless the party is struggling, why even do that at all?

If you want BiS then you have to be prepared to do the work. That's for any game, not just this one. Otherwise the game is pretty generous with what it offers people (like me) who chose not to do savage as far as gear is concerned.

I mean, i get it if you're going for glams but as someone mentioned its best to do that either at the end of the expansion or at the start of a new one when its unsyncable.

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Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd

I have to agree with most of the people who are saying both not to do savage if you don't enjoy it and that BiS is unnecessary unless you are doing savage. Because both of those are right.

You can grind standard duties for tome gear. When the next alliance raid releases, you'll have the ability to upgrade said tome gear. Usually the savage raids offer gear that is a measley 5-10 ilvls higher than the current tome gear (which is questionable once said gear is augmentable) and possibly with slightly better stat weights. The effect of which is negligible in standard duties unless you're a regular parser and honestly unless the party is struggling, why even do that at all?

If you want BiS then you have to be prepared to do the work. That's for any game, not just this one. Otherwise the game is pretty generous with what it offers people (like me) who chose not to do savage as far as gear is concerned.

I mean, i get it if you're going for glams but as someone mentioned its best to do that either at the end of the expansion or at the start of a new one when its unsyncable.

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Well said. I think the majority of the community would agree

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Originally Posted by rsod

Bis means you do more damage in raids, have more balanced stats and overall it's more pleasant to play when you have best gear.
Also I wouldn't mind difficult content, but not THAT difficult. It really needs to be relaxed just a bit. Or an additional tier between normals and savages should appear, which would also allow to get your best equipment.

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BiS usually doesn't usually balance your stats. It's about minmaxing.
Minimising the stats you don't want while maxing out the ones you do.

If you only want it so you can manage easy content with even greater ease, I can see why you'd find difficult content much more frustrating.
Honestly, the difference in most sets for the full BiS and being full tomestone gear is minimal expecially for someone who isn't going ahead with more challenging content, you'd be fine with the max ilvl gear from tomestones. Don't stress over content you don't enjoy.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

As someone who has raided every tier since second coil of Bahamut, only 1 fight this tier, E8s, could have the moniker of being overtuned and quite frankly it's fine as all it actually asks for is low green (25%-49%) so 25%-30% from all 8 players while doing mechanics and anyone at that stage should have the necessary requirements for it.

But never judge anything based on pugs. I learned all of E8s by end of week 3 took 2 more weeks of wiping on enrage to get kill, and has been pretty smooth for weeklies since then. Random people comes random skill levels.

The worse aspect of e6s is the clashing colours with aoe markers/background/ground, everything else about that fight very reasonable, I certainly don't want another Alte Roite (for those unaware o1s was easier than Susano Ex and is regarded as a complete joke of a fight by raiders especially as it was killed in 1 pull) so dumbing down savage even more no thank you, if you really don't want to put the effort/time needed for it you don't need the reward, you just want it and worsening the content to those that currently enjoy it just so you can get your sparkles no fam.

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I don't disagree, shiva is finely tuned, tight check but manageable by an average group. Your methodology is flawed though, you only need those percentiles on every fight because they are a direct result of people who have cleared. You'll find all any player needs is a 0 percentile, there's one for every job on every fight including ultimates.

Savage is not "too difficult". It's just not for everyone. And BiS is something you only need to do ultimates fights or speedkills. Having a decent gear is enough to clear savages (relic gear and a few tomestones spent here and there should do the trick). As long as you're ilvl480+ you're good to go.

I can't beleive people think they can decide if something is balanced or not by only judging from their own perspective...

90% of the responses in this thread are "It's fine for me, so it should be fine for you." or "It's not for you, you can do it when 7.0 comes out."

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

90% of the responses in this thread are "It's fine for me, so it should be fine for you." or "It's not for you, you can do it when 7.0 comes out."

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and that's a problem... how?

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

90% of the responses in this thread are "It's fine for me, so it should be fine for you." or "It's not for you, you can do it when 7.0 comes out.

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Well said, just do it in 7.0.
High end contents is named that way for a reason and despite being easier than ever lately savage is a high end and not for everyone and definately not for people who want an easy clear.
Just be grateful they will be clearable without any challenge or knowlegde of the fight in late patch ;p.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

90% of the responses in this thread are "It's fine for me, so it should be fine for you." or "It's not for you, you can do it when 7.0 comes out."

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How is that not the correct response to the OP saying "Savage isn't fun at all for me, I hate content that difficult. But there is no other way to get bis gear"? You literally dont need the best gear for anything in game(aside from ultimate, and someone frustrated with savage shouldnt be touching ultimate). If you dont need something and you dont like doing it, then Dont Do It! is great advice.