The issue lies here https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/s.../subscriptionsQuote:
Originally Posted by illutian
They would still need the Mogstation so there is no real need to do that. F2P/B2P games on STEAM are treated differently when it comes to charging fees from Valve.
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09-01-2019, 02:08 AMBahamutxD
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09-01-2019, 02:53 AMillutianExplain this then: https://i.imgur.com/DIlBxCM.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by BahamutxD
ESO allows me to sub through Steam....from within the game.
If it's a fee thing, ZeniMax, a company that's a bit sketchy on it's Cash Shop (lol $100 for a house!) seems to think it's worth it.
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09-01-2019, 04:49 AMBahamutxDThere is nothing to explain, FFXIV and ESO are not comparable cases for the sole reason that one is F2P and the other B2P. STEAM treats them differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by illutian
Theres more on that matter here https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing
The only comparable case in STEAM is FFXI but that doesn't help as it is another SquareEnix tittle using pretty much the same system as FFXIV. -
09-01-2019, 06:53 AMMediocre_Guy
This has prevented me from playing for the last four days now and sadly this is the only game I want to play atm so this is very unfortunate. Whatever the reasons SE chose to do this, even if done to combat a real issue, it was ill-thought for it screwed more of the actual player-base than anything else. Please SE resolve this issue.
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09-01-2019, 11:09 AMillutianEVE Online also had the game as B2P on Steam years before adopting a 'free2play' with sub option.Quote:
Originally Posted by BahamutxD
Point is, it can be done. Square is choosing not to.
Furthermore, they did a piss-poor job informing us. I sign in and immediately think something happened to my payment options, because the warning is a generic message. I had zero clue this was going on. No emails. No banners (the scrolling ones on the launcher). -
09-01-2019, 01:38 PMCrystalChrome
I support this petition.
When I originally started playing this game I just joined on steam to play with people I knew were playing. I had no idea the game had a separate version launcher specifically for windows that you didn't have to buy within the steam client.
Over the years, its always been log in with whichever... so I always just used the same account, bought all my expansions, leveled the majority of my classes etc on this square enix account tied to steam. If this had been in effect years ago when I first stated playing, I would have scrapped the account associated with steam and started from 0. Now I have a developed account that is locked into steam, and of course all my mogstation purchases are also locked to this account. I have also added PS4 license to this account. There's a lot of money sitting on an account I don't want to just throw away. However, I get constant DC's when using the steam launcher for no reason. I don't enable steam overlay with any game because its silly and slows everything down.
If this is on account of fraud by playing on windows and returning the game on steam... why did they just no implement some sort of time limit on using either launcher until the steam window of 14 days has expired? Or why isn't there some sort of process to validate that you are regular player, with a legitimate copy of the game, hours of game play, etc etc and simply issue to the mogstation permissions to use both launchers.
I would also pay for both licenses to use either launcher. It seems silly as I'm still playing EITHER launcher on WINDOWS, but if that was what I had to do to prevent fraudulent activity, its not that much to buy a bundled license with all the past expacs included.
It just seems to me that they decided to shaft a dedicated player base with a cheap solution, essentially punishing honest players due to the fraudulent actions of others. -
09-02-2019, 08:07 AMRhomagus
If you'd also like to go to the Feedback forums as well to voice your opinions that'd be great. While this thread is growing in size, it still might not be going down the right corporate track. Though there is no proof that the following link is either, it's best to cover our bases.
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09-02-2019, 08:17 AMMewi
I support this petition as a long term FFXIV player who is unable to apply the steam keys they purchased for due to playing windows key variant first. Please allow us for the option to apply both to the same service account. You do this for PS4, why not steam? Did we, or did we not pay for these games SE?
Otherwise, are you willing to offer some form of a recompense for the money we spent for a game, we can no longer use for its intended steam services? -
09-02-2019, 08:34 AMEvaddaragonBut that's exactly why I don't follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by BahamutxD
I stopped playing FFXI (on PS2 and PC and X360) in 2009. In 2017, I felt like getting the ultimate Seekers Collection on Steam. I could reactive my old character on Cerberus from way back when! Yeah, I thought it was deleted but apparently it wasn't. LOL I played about 2 months, then reactived again back in April in order to finish all main storylines (only Seekers of Adoulin remains, I even finished Rhapsodies of Vanad'iel) and get at least PLD to master status.
And it seems that if I wanted to get the Steam version of FFXIV, I couldn't simply log with my current SE account info? I couldn't even register the Steam version? This is nuts. -
09-02-2019, 09:53 AMMewiThat isn't the same, and it isn't consolidated on our steam profiles with our other game data. Also, that is just one of the features we lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustJon