Do you shame people for their choice of materia melds?

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08-12-2019, 12:32 AM
RareItems

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Tenacity is perfectly fine in anything below Savage and even there it has seen use on progression. Full Tenacity is something like a 5% damage reduction but 1-2% less damage than full DH. That damage reduction can have some use in less predictable content like dungeons or messy pugs. But ultimately there's very little difference between either.

The reason DH is used is because every % counts on tight enrage timers at the high end and once you have the mechanics down, your healers ogcd's are more than enough and your own cd's are planned for each tankbuster, 5% reduction makes no difference. But tight enrage timers don't apply to Normal or even EX which are quite lenient or give you all the time in the world.

People spouting off against Tenacity in Normal content are parroting info they've read on guides without any understanding of the reasoning behind it.

Totally agree with what this guy said <3. This is exactly what i'm trying to say for the past week on 2 threads lol. Sadly, i still see lots of tanks who don't even raid, meld direct hit on their gear, under the assumption that Direct Hit is the go to Tank Meld based on popular opinion.
08-12-2019, 12:46 AM
MariaArvana

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Originally Posted by RareItems

Did you just assume ilvl430 unmelded tanks don't wipe on The Twinning? Maybe if you actually solo queued you would know lol. As for the OP's thread "Do ppl shame others for their materia melds", we found one Shamer right here lol.

It clearly proves Tenacity melds is the best for solo queue casual content for Tanks. Casual content being 95% of the entire content in the game lol. It gives you room to adjust and support your team instead of just being a 3rd DPS, because that's basically what a Direct Hit Melded Tank is, a 3rd DPS.

I wonder how my BF ever did those wall-to-wall pulls back on release in the Twinning & Akademia in his 430 AF & misc <430 accessories with our healer friend getting extremely high uptime with his dps spells...oh wait.
You could be ilvl 450 or ilvl 430, wall-to-wall pulls come down to the combined experience of both the healer and the tank. My bf & I do expert roulette daily, he's fully DH melded; and he wall-to-wall pulls every time, and across several weeks we've never gotten a DF healer that couldn't handle it when they got a tank that actually knew how to use CDs properly.

If you're dying on wall-to-wall pulls in the Twinning, either your tank or your healer is lacking, and some Tenacity wouldn't be helping you (considering the difference between full Ten and not full Ten is like 5-8%).

Player skill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> melds every single day. If you're not attempting savage Tenacity is fine, but it's not gonna substitute for actual mitigation skill.
08-12-2019, 01:09 AM
RareItems

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Originally Posted by MariaArvana

My bf & I do expert roulette daily, he's fully DH melded;

Your statement negates your comment because your running it with someone you know. If you actually read the statement you just replied to you would be able to see the word "If you actually Solo queued".

Lets be honest here, there's only 1 spot on Expert Roullete where you could possibly die from a pull and its the 2nd pull before the 2nd boss on the Twinning. Those 2 mobs that casts Berserk on themselves plus the 9 other mobs whaling at you, it doesnt matter if you ilvl470, if your healer is new, or your DPS is new or lagging, There is a ALWAYS a chance you could die. Your chances of dying is higher if you use Direct Hit for very obvious reasons.

Hence, that is why Tenacity is better for casual content for players who usually solo queue. If you do roulletes with FC members on a daily basis, it doesn't matter if your using Piety on your tank melds. Nobody cares and nobody will say anything lol.

Again, Please read before responding. If your Boyfriend raids, then that's his excuse for having Direct Hit on his gear. But please don't try to push Direct Hit on everyone else.

You don't even need Direct Hit even if your raiding. There's a guy on the last 2 pages that said he has full tenacity melds and is clearing savage Eden just fine. All your doing is making those 2 Healers heal harder while expecting them to DPS as well.
08-12-2019, 01:20 AM
CorbinDallas

I don't touch tenacity melds and have generally been fine in wall to wall pulls. I do the first big pull knowing the healer has all their cds and mine, and if it's sloppy/hit and miss, I'll small pull the rest of the dungeon. If the first big pull goes fine I'll continue to big pull. Reminder that Interject exists for the troublesome mobs like the Beserker things in Twinning and the Samurai things in Akademia.

Y'all getting so worked up over tank melds when there are people running around with no melds at all, which is a lot worse.
08-12-2019, 01:23 AM
Gwenorai

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Originally Posted by RareItems

Your statement negates your comment because your running it with someone you know. If you actually read the statement you just replied to you would be able to see the word "If you actually Solo queued".

Lets be honest here, there's only 1 spot on Expert Roullete where you could possibly die from a pull and its the 2nd pull before the 2nd boss on the Twinning. Those 2 mobs that casts Berserk on themselves plus the 9 other mobs whaling at you, it doesnt matter if you ilvl470, if your healer is new, or your DPS is new or lagging, There is a ALWAYS a chance you could die. Your chances of dying is higher if you use Direct Hit for very obvious reasons.

Hence, that is why Tenacity is better for casual content for players who usually solo queue. If you do roulletes with FC members on a daily basis, it doesn't matter if your using Piety on your tank melds. Nobody cares and nobody will say anything lol.

Again, Please read before responding. If your Boyfriend raids, then that's his excuse for having Direct Hit on his gear. But please don't try to push Direct Hit on everyone else.

You don't even need Direct Hit even if your raiding. There's a guy on the last 2 pages that said he has full tenacity melds and is clearing savage Eden just fine. All your doing is making those 2 Healers heal harder while expecting them to DPS as well.

No, you don't need it - but it's good to have. Like how BRDs melds are crit > dh > det. If you're maxed on crit, you go to dh - that's how you make the most out of your melds. if I see a MCH/BRD with sks - I'm going to laugh but I'm not going to say anything, just going to OOOF because that doesn't seem comfy with that clipping. If you're not raiding, crafting/gathering end game then you don't need to meld and no one expects your gear to be melded. If you are raiding people expect you to have the most beneficial melds in your gear. What's so difficult to comprehend. Also, lol, tenacity is a good to have for tanks who are progressing in raid, most like to have sks, dh, det and then tenacity, however, and people who meld this also clear without a problem - first week.

People have cleared without overmelds, and the basic of melds in place. Skill beats melds.
08-12-2019, 01:27 AM
RareItems

People who melded Direct Hit on their tank gear getting defensive and blaming it on others as usual.
08-12-2019, 01:29 AM
RareItems

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

No, you don't need it - but it's good to have. Like how BRDs melds are crit > dh > det. If you're maxed on crit, you go to dh - that's how you make the most out of your melds. if I see a MCH/BRD with sks - I'm going to laugh but I'm not going to say anything, just going to OOOF because that doesn't seem comfy with that clipping. If you're not raiding, crafting/gathering end game then you don't need to meld and no one expects your gear to be melded. If you are raiding people expect you to have the most beneficial melds in your gear. What's so difficult to comprehend. Also, lol, tenacity is a good to have for tanks who are progressing in raid, most like to have sks, dh, det and then tenacity, however, and people who meld this also clear without a problem - first week.

People have cleared without overmelds, and the basic of melds in place. Skill beats melds.

I bet my Tank with 3000+ tenacity can beat your DH tank on a DPS race xD How about E4N? Surely someone who brags about skill should find E4N easy enough. Just whisper me ingame so we can party up with 6 randoms. If E4N is too hard for you you we can do E1-E3N instead.
08-12-2019, 01:31 AM
Gwenorai

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Originally Posted by RareItems

I bet my Tank with 3000+ tenacity can beat your DH tank on a DPS race xD How about E4N?

Chuckle, aye E4N is the real end game. Forget about savage.
08-12-2019, 01:36 AM
Gwenorai

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Originally Posted by RareItems

I bet my Tank with 3000+ tenacity can beat your DH tank on a DPS race xD How about E4N? Surely someone who brags about skill should find E4N easy enough. Just whisper me ingame so we can party up with 6 randoms. If E4N is too hard for you you we can do E1-E3N instead.

Hun, I don't tank - I'm a BRD. I'm also smart enough to check the good resources that folk give out in order to do their best for 'SAVAGE' content. I'm not defensive, I don't tank - harhar. I'm perfectly happy with my melds. You sound defensive, however. Go chill, drink some tea or something. I couldn't give a moogles butt what you got in your melds - because I'm not raiding with you, and never will be in a group with you.
08-12-2019, 01:44 AM
RareItems

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Hun, I don't tank - I'm a BRD. I'm also smart enough to check the good resources that folk give out in order to do their best for 'SAVAGE' content. I'm not defensive, I don't tank. I'm perfectly happy with my melds. You sound defensive, however. Go chill, drink some tea or something. I couldn't give a moogles butt what you got in your melds - because I'm not raiding with you, and never will be in a group with you.

Never plan on doing Savage or Ex trials, seems like a waste of time when the drops are purely glamour lol. It's also sad that you think your skilled because you do Savage/Ex Trials when your fighting against an AI with lots of Mr Happy guides out there to hold your hand every step of the way. Not to mention all the 3rd Party Apps pretty much playing the game for you.

Also, did you mean this Resource?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tat_intervals/

Because i did my homework. Bye :D.

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