Is anyone else getting the feeling

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Originally Posted by Bahati

I think OP might be self inserting their personal beliefs too much into a work of fiction.

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That's what happens when you think your the center of the universe, your force your way into things not associated to you, and cry victim when you are purged for those same actions.

Edit: let's be honest in 2019 a lot of people are forcing their ways into things they shouldn't be and getting a lot of resentment. If people want to include it they will, if not o well. It's not a personal attack on you, or your culture or your beliefs or values or morals or interests or orientation or your favorite color.

Not everyone is always thinking about you :) earn your way to the table on merit don't storm in a room and flip it because you aren't represented or misrepresented or not even included.

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Originally Posted by Melichoir

My point was simply more along the lines of whether or not the dismissal of said complaint is at the individual level (i.e. you personally reject the personal assertions of the other person for specific flaws in that person's position) or if its collect (i.e you reject their complaints because of their group affiliation and use an overly broad brush). As a side point, you really dont know much about faiths in general it seems. A 'room full of christians' wont persecute christians? Certain sects of Christianity absolutely hate other sects. There is a real hate for Catholics in some circles from other Christians (Some parts of 7th day adventists come to mind; theyre not fond of the catholic church and actively view its leadership as the antichrist.)

This doesnt even address a key aspect - Just because you belong to a majority does not mean people cannot persecute you.
Also, you really dont know your history to well either. Whites have been a majority and in power in the US for a while, but they certainly did discriminate against other whites at times. People tend to forget Irish and Italians were both actively discriminated against. Borderline systemic at some points. This goes beyond that though - groups can find ways to discriminate against people who would otherwise be a part of that same group for all sorts of reasons. It's not a unique phenomenon.

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Aye, I agree completely, I know a little bit about this as I am descended from Roman Catholic Irish who had to leave Ireland due to the great famine and oppression.
They were being oppressed like you wouldn't believe.
Persecution is still occurring towards them in different forms. Despite being agnostic/athiest, I was appalled to hear from my mother that she didn't like Catholics and thought the Irish Roman Catholics deserved to die in the great famine (do to them being catholic), I asked why, and she said in along the lines of, that it was partly due to her being Anglican, and partly due to how catholics are portrayed in the media, even though my dad was sitting right next to her and he was raised catholic (which is where my Roman Catholic Irish heritage comes from).

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Originally Posted by Melichoir

For Christmas, a holiday that is very big for Christians and has religious significance for them particularly

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And what of the Christians who banned Christmas for having no Scriptural justification and for being associated with Paganism? The Puritans who founded America believed quite strongly that Christmas was sinful. And if you celebrate Thanksgiving, you celebrate the very Christians who banned Christmas. And yet, in modern times, Christians engage in a war for a holiday they themselves have banned. There's a reason outsiders are plain sick of the persecution complex. You can't reason with a religion engaged in doublethink.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ...an_New_England

Christmas in particular has strong roots in the Norse holiday of Yule. Santa was basically Odin, before Coca-Cola reimagined him as a jolly fat guy in the 1930s.

If anything, the JRPG trope of vilifying religious symbols is more about decrying false gods, which any religious person should surely be in favour of...

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Christmas in particular has strong roots in the Norse holiday of Yule. Santa was basically Odin, before Coca-Cola reimagined him as a jolly fat guy in the 1930s.

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To be fair, that is another modern pagan misconception, just like the Futhark being used as fortune telling runes or having any religious significance at all. We just don't know but a lot of authors in the NeoPagan movement either have no historical evidence or they take possible theories or speculation and pass them off as fact and that goes for a lot of ancient cultures, not just Norse. There is very very little known about old Norse culture, especially religious practice or belief because it was quashed and destroyed by the church and then appropriated and twisted by the Nazi party. We do know the Norse were quite liberal, even by today's standards, but especially by the standards of their day and age which makes it all the more facepalming the symbolism and gods are invoked by white supremacists.

As someone who is of Scandinavian decent, I studied it quite closely in uni. We have the Edda, but that is also post-christian so its only considered to be partially accurate at best.