Unbelievable Rudeness!

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

The kid might be thirTEEN and the game is rated T for TEEN but most of the times, the online experience is definitely M for Mature with shades of AO (adults only).

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Other: Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB (PC, PlayStation 3)

...Because it's genuinely hard to tell when people are trolling and when they are being simple-minded, ESRB and other rating systems for games go by the content of the game and never what players can say or do to each other.

NOTE: Not saying the quoted user is being simple.

Sorry this happends.

Where I live, this game is rated 16. Not saying you did wrong or anything (espicially as rating are different everywhere) but anyway, this type of game might be better for her when she grow up a little.
People might still be harsh for a young person and it's only natural that she is sensitive being so young.
Hope she'd like to try again some years later o/

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

Or you could just not say rude things to people?

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you missed my point, mate.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

you missed my point, mate.

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Well, I have autism spectrum disorder so would you mind explaining your point to me?

Tell her to get over it...As harsh as that may sound. The internet is a shitty place where people's true personalities come out because they can hide behind a computer screen. The real world much worse. She'll need to face critiscm and know how to deal with it eventually and develop tough skin when it comes to things people say.

I started playing MMOs when I was about 13-14 with MapleStory back in 2003. That game was a shithole when it came to the community. FFXIV is one of the better ones with the bad apples being few and far between (at least for me). Just blacklist the a-holes and keep it moving.

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

Well, I have autism spectrum disorder so would you mind explaining your point to me?

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It would be absurd to ask people their age before talking to them, like imagine going "hey are you under 18?" as an introduction (assuming you're over 18 as most players are). You would just come off as a creep very quickly. My point was to highlight the absurdity of the proposed suggestion "hey guys, we should be a bit nicer because kids could be playing this game". How do we actively know who kids are? we cant, because any identifier would be instantly problematic. that was the joke point i was making.

So we're back to what you said, "why cant you just not be rude?". To answer you honestly, I try really hard not be be rude in-game because I treat it the same way I treat being in public locations IRL. But the thing is with MMOs is that its sort of a blend between a personal game and a public social area, where you kind of treat it like "this is my fun/relaxation time, i can do w/e i want" and a public social area where anyone can come and go as they please there's sort of a "public responsibility" to behave. Its a fine line to walk if you want to treat it like both and NOT come off as rude to someone eventually, you cannot control how people will interpret your words or actions. Im getting off track..it was just a joke.

This thread reminds me of the drawbacks of MMO and what people tolerate, accept and flat don't accept. This game maybe rate T for teen but is completely inappropriate for minors IMHO. Nevermind the bullying and trolling bait that goes on but the nasty stuff people text about is not suitable for children.

That being said is the fundamental flaw of all MMO's, people being people, sure go ahead and tell them not to be rude but don't hold your breath. Giving advice on raising a child or in such circumstance is just sheer audacious arrogance. It is nobodies business, outside the parent, how to raise there child. Here comes the BUT....

OP opened the door because he/she is upset the daughter got her feelings hurt so everyone chime in with tough skin talk, people are a--holes, yada yada yada....what is a reasonable solution?

I agree not being rude is a start, however, this is subjective to what is considered rude. Another player suggested this in a roulette I was in where a player was being bullied to speed run a dung for the ft as tank..

Join an FC and /or linkshell with like minded players. Have at least one other player your comfortable with go in the instances with you. As a parent if your concerned with people being jerks perhaps you should play with them and have some accord in case this happens again.

As far as SE doing anything....Nada.....don't count on much except may be a short ban at most. Which will not stop people from being jerks. Ya just cant have all good without some bad.

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Originally Posted by Ahribear

Threads like this only exist in ffxiv community

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You must not play very many MMOs. ESO, WoW, Neverwinter are way worse with threads like this.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

It would be absurd to ask people their age before talking to them, like imagine going "hey are you under 18?" as an introduction (assuming you're over 18 as most players are). You would just come off as a creep very quickly. My point was to highlight the absurdity of the proposed suggestion "hey guys, we should be a bit nicer because kids could be playing this game". How do we actively know who kids are? we cant, because any identifier would be instantly problematic. that was the joke point i was making.

So we're back to what you said, "why cant you just not be rude?". To answer you honestly, I try really hard not be be rude in-game because I treat it the same way I treat being in public locations IRL. But the thing is with MMOs is that its sort of a blend between a personal game and a public social area, where you kind of treat it like "this is my fun/relaxation time, i can do w/e i want" and a public social area where anyone can come and go as they please there's sort of a "public responsibility" to behave. Its a fine line to walk if you want to treat it like both and NOT come off as rude to someone eventually, you cannot control how people will interpret your words or actions. Im getting off track..it was just a joke.

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Exactly. I try my best to be very polite and well meaning in everything I say, but sometimes I just lose my cool and I get angry. Not ToS breaching angry, but I'll just ragequit a duty usually. I'm trying to hold back against an ex actually that I met through this game, she's done some not very nice things to me since we broke up (to the point that she was told off by the officers of her FC for how she'd acted, and a mutual friend of ours is still angry at her like 3 weeks on). I want to rip her a new one, but trying to stay civil instead.

As for the OP... I suggest supervision.I would go as far as to suggest that ANYONE under 25 (yes, twenty five) is supervised by a parent (if possible, else a trusted friend). Even at 28, there are times I find myself clamouring for a friend to run duties with to have my back.

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Originally Posted by Jimmymagic

This thread reminds me of the drawbacks of MMO and what people tolerate, accept and flat don't accept. This game maybe rate T for teen but is completely inappropriate for minors IMHO.

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By that logic parents should just lock their kids out of the internet as a whole. The game's base rating is certainly rated T, but they do not rate online interactions. Never have. If someone was extremely rude to another that's where the GMs may step in, depending on the severity.