So out of alll the summons /primals of past final fantasy games,which do you want?

I'd love to see Siren, Phoenix and Carbuncle. :3

Definatly would love to see Doom Train as a summon

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3...1phpss3338.png

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

KotR does 129,987 damage max, FFXIII attacks can reach 999,999 in a single hit. So raw damage is not really an argument for inclusion.

As far as graphics, I find FFVII's Neo Bahamut to be a far more stylish implementation of the Wyrmking than the interpretations found in FFX or even FFXIII. Art direction is much more important than graphic power.

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First of all, you need a certain accessory to break the 9999DMG limit in FFXIII. Secondly hardware power helps a lot in the art direction, as far as details go.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

SE has gone overboard in trying to squeeze every last drop of money out of FFVII. I'm sure I'm not the only one that is tired of it.

That's not to say that the KotR concept couldn't be used again in a different way. Replace them with redesigned Ark Angels and you have my vote~

Of course, it becomes a new summon then.. which is a bonus as well. :)

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That is like comparing Bahamut with Leviathan, change the skin and call them different names. No thanks.

Lets agree on that and call it a day.

I remember a similar thread from a long time ago... lol

• Bahamut
• Anima
• Diabolos/Diablos
• Fenrir
• Phoenix
• Ixion
• Quetzecoatl
• Leviathan
• Odin
• Cerberus
• Doomtrain
• Shiva
• Eden
• Adrammelech
• Zodiark

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Originally Posted by Choyi

Definatly would love to see Doom Train as a summon

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I'm curious as to how that would work in an MMO...

Would Doom Train follow you around?

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

I'm curious as to how that would work in an MMO...

Would Doom Train follow you around?

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Summoner doesn't have to be a pet class. It could just be a huge train that comes out of nowhere and plows into the enemy!

As boss battles:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs5/i/200...by_bonzega.jpg

Definitely alexander and bahamut. I love the idea of Ark Angels returning as a boss battle in XIV, but I don't think they work as a summon. Other creatures I would want to fight:
-Titan
-Anima
-Cerberus
-Doomtrain
-Shiva
-Ifrit
-Gilgamesh
-Yojimbo
-The Magus Sisters

Things I would love to use at my own discretion as a summoner:
-Valefor
-Carbuncle
-Quetzacotl
-Ramuh
-Fenrir
-Ixion (along with fenrir, possible mountable summon similar to class specific mounts in World of Wa...never mind.)
-Phoenix
-Asura
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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

In all fairness, SE hasn't brought back any of the final (ultimate) summons in the main series since FFVI *unless Crusader (JP= ジハード 'Jihad') = KotR, which I don't necessarily agree with.
FFXI = N/A -- we can't say what the final summon is yet

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Depends on which way you're referring to final, since we know Cait Sith and Atomos are basically the last summons for players, but in terms of lore yeah we don't know yet lol.

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Originally Posted by Shoopdadoopdoop

As boss battles:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs5/i/200...by_bonzega.jpg

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Alexander or Carbuncle for me. If Alexander is added and is this size make him a dungeon/boss that would be something to see