Telling a player they should quit? Is that ever justified?

Alright, fair enough. I am going to respectfully bow out of this conversation.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I actually "nope, no way am I touching that thread" with the one about 4k garbage dps. I read it hoping that it wouldn't go in the direction I thought it was going, but it did. So when this thread popped up I was like "oh gawd how do I write something that won't set off the powder keg".

But yes, I don't hate you. I don't hate Miste, Bourne, or Hyo, even though they seem far more ready to fight over raider and parser nonsense and thus I respond in kind. Passive aggressiveness is something I've put up with from my entire family all my life, and It quite honestly difficult to dial that down when everyone else is doing their Daria the deadpan snarker impression.

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Nah, was my fault for making it in the first place. Should've just left it alone before I started typing. But what's done is done. Best thing to do now is just deal with it and move on. As I mentioned above, I'm bowing out of this discussion, but thank you for your words. I was surprised, yes, but thank you. /cheers

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

@Kisai, I'm on mobile, so couldn't quote. The fact that you don't dislike me is honestly surprising. I wouldn't blame anyone if they did, however. Some of my earlier threads were indeed in response to something. Those, I've made no apologies for. The last one, I have because it was going a different direction. Like I implied before, very few people can actually reach me outside of the forums now, so really, there is no present drama. Nothing so dramatic that folks need to worry about me. I'm just another person on the forums, nothing more, nothing less lol

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I actually "nope, no way am I touching that thread" with the one about 4k garbage dps. I read it hoping that it wouldn't go in the direction I thought it was going, but it did. So when this thread popped up I was like "oh gawd how do I write something that won't set off the powder keg".

But yes, I don't hate you. I don't hate Miste, Bourne, or Hyo, even though they seem far more ready to fight over raider and parser nonsense and thus I respond in kind. Passive aggressiveness is something I've put up with from my entire family all my life, and It quite honestly difficult to dial that down when everyone else is doing their Daria the deadpan snarker impression.

Stop.making.these.threads.

These.threads.stop.making.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

But yes, I don't hate you. I don't hate Miste, Bourne, or Hyo, even though they seem far more ready to fight over raider and parser nonsense and thus I respond in kind.

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You're usually the one who brings parser nonsense into threads, not them. Just sayin'.

If you want to take a break you do but no one have a right to tell you to nor to tell you to quit. It's your choise ultimately.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

Yesh, I fall under the former category. A lot of issues going on and my health is tanking badly, disbanded the static, FC passed to new leadership, left the Discord mentioned below (passed on to someone else), the works. I will do my daily beast tribes and the like but the stuff that causes me extreme stress is gone until I can handle it better.

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I can relate to that. I had a friendship that turned sour ingame (I was exchanged for someone else) and a lot of stress with my old FC. (Being Co-Leader and having different opinions about leading a FC) So it started to really put me down. I did not take a break but left the FC and broke the contact with the person and thus started a relaxing way to play this game. Its nice to not constantly feel depressed or teary when you play this game. So you dont necessarily need to take a break or quit the game but sometimes these would be the best ways to increase your health and thus I see no problem with telling someone to quit for something like that. (If its warranted) The problem comes more from people accepting that they have a problem and that the person that told them to take a break or quit dont mean it in a bad way but are looking out for them.

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I am not sure if telling someone on the forum to quit is good. If you dont know them it might just be that it feels like they are only complaining but maybe they are just visiting the forums to only write about their negative points because they want to change it. I do agree that the game might not be for the person if they want a whole complete different game but even then I would not tell them to quit. This is truly just happening if I know that person ingame too and they truly dont find anything fun in the game.

I can tell you now OP that I'm actually on a small break away from FFXIV, the savage content was starting to get to me not because of the difficulty/rotations/etc but because there was not many willing to teach me the mechanics, and it just lead to negative thinking about the game in general. I decided I should only run Savage Content with the FC rather than doing random party finder groups, way less stress. I'm not exactly a hardcore savage runner, I just want to be able to beat bosses like Neo Exdeath "at least once" or unless I got it down so pat to a science like with Phantom Train after so many trial and error then I might consider running it multiple times.

I think some people forget we are here to have fun, and not to cause each other grief.

Short Answer - Everyone needs a short break rather than quitting all together or being told to quit.

I don't think it's ever justified to tell someone to quit. If you're concerned about their health and well-being, it's fine to suggest it, but do so much more politely than "I think you should quit" or worse "please uninstall and go play something better suited to your abilities...like Barbie Horse Adventures"

But if you're legitimately concerned about their health, suggesting a break isn't such a bad idea.

If your friend spends so much money on fantasias that they keep putting themselves in financial trouble...