A lot of people dont like to play Tank -

It's because tanking is all the fun of a menial day job with all of the responsibility of a crane operator. Why the heck would somebody want to play the role that is neither rewarding nor particularly fun, but puts a ton of pressure on you not to mess up? It's only natural that there's a very vocal portion of the tank community that wants tanks to basically be blue DPS; the problem is that SE seems to think the solution to this is giving handouts in dailies and making the role completely idiot-proof, and not by balancing the responsibility with more reward.

That being said, the WAR rework was a universal improvement on the job's gameplay if you ask me, and the PLD nerf was necessary (when compared to other tanks).

I've always mained healer and dps (particularly SMN/SCH/RDM/WHM), but recently power levelled PLD from 1 - 70 so I could start farming for the Lion mount...

I have to say, I've never been so bored in my life. I find tanking just hideously clunky and dull. Now, I'm nowhere near an experienced tank, or tried 'difficult' content with it -- but from what I've experienced thus far, it's literally just keeping aggro and popping a cooldown during a tank buster. Tanks rarely get any interesting mechanics aside from a tank swap, so it's obvious that a tank's only form of interest is literally just trying to get higher and higher numbers (it is mine).

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Originally Posted by Aniond

It is a surprise. If you ever played WOW, Everquest, or any other trinity based game then you understand this.

In WOW I tanked for nearly 8 years or so. Not once was my DPS as a paladin or a druid questioned. Alot of people migrated from other MMOS with that same mentality which is their job above else. If you tank you tank, you heal you heal.

Its really that basic.

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Literally this.

Wow, all these people talking about how tanks are "too stressful" or "hard to play", are making me think there's a huge misconception of what tanking is really about. lol

Tanks are actually the LEAST stressful job to play, é because you're actually allowed to mess up! Forgot to dodge a mechanic? Oh that's OK, you have enough HP to afford it. You literally just have to make sure things are hitting you, and that's not hard to do at all. Yes, there are some things you'll have to get used to, such as Provoking and tank-swapping, but that's pretty much it. Knowing a tank buster is coming isn't any different than a mechanic, and despite our rotations not being as interesting as some of the DPS classes (still better than BLM tho), there's still some decision-making for you to do.

Compare that to when I play a DPS. I have to make sure I don't step out of place, or I will DIE! Same with healer. lol People think it's not as stressful, but in a lot of raids, the death of a DPS sometimes results in a wipe as well.

And to everyone who says tanking is just about taking damage and keeping enmity, that's the same as me saying Black Mage is just spamming Fire until your MP runs out, and then casting Blizzard before repeating. Like yeah, if you think that's all there is to it, then OF COURSE tanking is gonna be boring. But there's more to being a Black Mage than just that. Especially if you want to be a GOOD Black Mage. There are other skills you have to use. And that's true with tanking as. This means that until you start trying to deal as much damage as you can as a tank, of course it's going to be boring.

this game is probably the only game where i actually dare myself to play as tank because how easy it is

from the slow pace of the combat which i actually like since i have slow respond time, to the mob encounter even the map layout is pretty basic, follow the road see enemy grab them, aoe enmity, thats it, mobs dead on to the next one.

there is only 1... one problem that stop me from going tank or healer (or even playing this game full time)...

i keep getting disconnected with error 90002, i try everything from port forwarding, anti virus exclude, internet explorer seting and update, win 7 compatibility, run as admin, tweaking ethernet properties... nothing... nothing fix this error!!!

It might be your Internet. Try doing this:

1. Press your Windows key + R. A small window should open.
2. Type cmd and press Enter. A black window should open.
3. Type this into the black window: ping -t www.google.com

Then leave that black window open. Every second, your computer will try to see if it can connect with Google. If for some reason it isn't able to connect with Google, it'll say "request timed out". This means something went wrong with your connection.

Start playing FFXIV, and the next time the game disconnects you, take a look at the black window and see if you got timed out or not.

If you ARE getting timed out, it means there's a problem with your connection.

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Originally Posted by Aniond

Alot of people migrated from other MMOS with that same mentality which is their job above else. If you tank you tank, you heal you heal.

Its really that basic.

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"It's really that basic"

It really isn't, as solely healing or solely tanking is neither a practical playstyle nor a desirable one. Nobody wants the tank that does nothing but her enmity rotation and pops cooldowns, because other tanks put in way more work in the DPS department while also being just as proficient at their primary role; the same goes for healers as well, especially given that healer DPS usually boils down to casting one or two spells until you need to re-attach somebody's arm.

Players are rightfully expected to use most of their kits to benefit the party, and purposefully doing otherwise makes someone worse than someone who is simply just bad at the game.

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Originally Posted by Capn_Goggles

"It's really that basic"

It really isn't, as solely healing or solely tanking is neither a practical playstyle nor a desirable one. Nobody wants the tank that does nothing but her enmity rotation and pops cooldowns, because other tanks put in way more work in the DPS department while also being just as proficient at their primary role; the same goes for healers as well, especially given that healer DPS usually boils down to casting one or two spells until you need to re-attach somebody's arm.

Players are rightfully expected to use most of their kits to benefit the party, and purposefully doing otherwise makes someone worse than someone who is simply just bad at the game.

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He's talking about other MMOs, where tanks dont have threat combos, just DPS combos, and doing it well is what gives you high threat.

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since I've never played tank before I get very nervous. I watch the videos before going in the dungeon, but trying to remember the mechanics, keeping an eye on aggro, and making sure the dps has enough room to do their attacks, trying to remember which way to go, is sometimes a little to much.

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TIP: Don't do that for anything other than Savage. As a Healer-Main and Tank on the side, I love delving head-first (blind) into new territory (eg. the latest two dungeons were a treat for the first time, testing myself against the unknown). If you enter such places with a big "Do/Don't" shopping list, you're not only worrying about external perception from others, but internal/self-evaluation as well -- a good Tank/Healer will learn to react on the fly rather than live by any kind of preset list of worries. Sure, it helps to know about exclusive mechanics (and you'd be foolish wading into Savage without any research at all), but 90% of dungeons are literally built around common-sense, to a point where you can often guess what the mechanics are just from a quick-glance. I find this a far better learning method than nervously researching and then entering content with a full-head of 'must remember this/that'.

As tank, you'll get a fair idea of what bosses & trash are capable of relatively quickly, thus your main concern is to ensure they're focusing on you and keeping everything facing away from the group. DPS can move to their optimal positions and won't begrudge you if you have to move due to incoming attacks etc, especially during massive pulls. Most you should do is mention you're new to a place, to which if anything 'out of the ordinary' exists, you can be sure someone will point it out -- but again, as a Healer/Tank main, exploring those things and learning the hard way always got me better results than worrying about screwing something up - because, hey, everyone screw up from time-to-time no matter what role they play.

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Originally Posted by BluexBird

It might be your Internet. Try doing this:

1. Press your Windows key + R. A small window should open.
2. Type cmd and press Enter. A black window should open.
3. Type this into the black window: ping -t www.google.com

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i've done this though i ping it to my server (jp elemental), and the ping is fine when i got dc 90002.

check reddit and some people suggest to flush your dns when yout got dc, it probably wont help but i can try i guess

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watch video guide before going into dungeon

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used to do this too (back when i main healer) but after a while i realized that outside endgame raid, the mechanic in this game is really that simple and the game give you an obvious sign of what you need to do.

- glaring tip "enemy will heal when he step on his own puddle"
- enemy skill called "forward march" with puddle everywhere
- enemy give full screen debuff, notice there is item/fruit scatter around
- 3 cannon and a wyvern appear right in front of it
- enemy plant a flag/pole that give him buff or debuff for us on certain radius

some going to fail the mechanic on 1st try but anyone with mmorpg experience (tank or not) will instantly know what he/she should do after that. the rest is just basic rule for tanking, back to wall, avoid red circle, use mitigation skill, etc