Patch 4.05 Notes up

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Item level restrictions do not apply when registering as a full party.

The caveat here is they list this new restriction on job comp under Level Requirement. Seems to me they have effectively blocked non-standard comps in Savage.

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That. See statics kicking out their 2/3 rdm/sam's, and returning to the regular standard comps. I look forward seeing all these complains, if it's not a typo in the patch notes, but most likely it's not and as stated by you the result. We will see when the servers go back up, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Item level restrictions do not apply when registering as a full party.

The caveat here is they list this new restriction on job comp under Level Requirement. Seems to me they have effectively blocked non-standard comps in Savage.

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Naw it's been like that since creator as well. You couldn't que up savage with two bards for example, or two mages. If you are in a full party, you can literally enter as anything you want regardless of item level, as long as you are lv70 with instance unlocked.

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Originally Posted by Coatl

Naw it's been like that since creator as well. You couldn't que up savage with two bards for example, or two mages. If you are in a full party, you can literally enter as anything you want regardless of item level, as long as you are lv70 with instance unlocked.

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Yeah that's what I was asking. Looks like we'll be alright with our double AST then. Thanks! :)

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Originally Posted by InfiniDragon

Dark Knight needs a lot more attention than they got. They still have mitigation and DPS concerns compared to the other two tanks with not enough utility to justify it, and SE seems to just be plugging their ears in regards to this job. They don't even really mention them, it's almost always PLD or WAR.

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Yeah, they do still need help, but it's still an improvement, and they managed to do it without gutting PLD. I'm curious how much mana Quietus will actually restore, may have to level my DRK and play with it.

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Originally Posted by YitharV2

So this is what Yoshi-P meant by MNKs outdamaging SAMs in Savage. Because ASTs feed MNKs spear now. Interesting. :thinking:

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Everyone knows the only card you give a monk is Arrow.

I don't even play MCH all that much and already could tell the changes they've made are failing to address some fundamental issues.

MCH wants heat, because more heat = more Cooldown usage = more DPS. Buffing Hot Shot's damage bonus while simultaneously reducing heat generation and the amount of Cooldown usage as a side effect is making the actual DPS increase they got smaller then it should be.

As it stands, overheating is still a penalty instead of a benefit in almost every situation, and still horribly punishing compared to the mistakes other classes can make. This could be fixed by simply bring the overheat damage bonus back up to 20% like how it was in pre-release Stormblood builds.

I kinda liked having PI on a shorter CD, but I guess that would be disgustingly broken, still, WHM got some nice changes.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I don't even play MCH all that much and already could tell the changes they've made are failing to address some fundamental issues.

MCH wants heat, because more heat = more Cooldown usage = more DPS. Buffing Hot Shot's damage bonus while simultaneously reducing heat generation and the amount of Cooldown usage as a side effect is making the actual DPS increase they got smaller then it should be.

As it stands, overheating is still a penalty instead of a benefit in almost every situation, and still horribly punishing compared to the mistakes other classes can make. This could be fixed by simply bring the overheat damage bonus back up to 20% like how it was in pre-release Stormblood builds.

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Yeah there's a thread on Reddit about it.

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Originally Posted by Syfurion

Yeah, they do still need help, but it's still an improvement, and they managed to do it without gutting PLD. I'm curious how much mana Quietus will actually restore, may have to level my DRK and play with it.

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In a perfect world, it would give back the values of MP Blood Price used to so that you can be pretty liberal with Dark Arts Abyssal Drain, since they didn't see fit to address DRK's passive mitigation on non-tankbusters and this change is clearly aimed at multiple mobs and dungeon content rather than raid stuff.

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Originally Posted by Furrythefireman

Rip to the once kings of aoe to me having to make the switch because my favorite pet titan can't even tank something his own level without dying or on the brink of death. SE if you going to do this to us at least give us more health and better armor because when titan dies I get tired of running around in Circles just to stay alive because I can't take that many hits from the bosses from msq, which I say is a vary stupid way to have to play the game, on top of that I can't heal me or my pet. GIVE US SUSTAIN BACK and also give titan provoke boom summoner fixed.

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I feel sorry for my fellow smn. It's like everytime they ask for something it goes over SE head.

I welcome any changes for the class but it's terrible seeing that the class keeps being blantely ignore. I still enjoy it tho

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

*hugs balance card* I enjoyed your power while it lasted~

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This right here is how I feel, lol.